Stanford Health Care-CA

stanford come to mind

penn

any program that has a special research resident spot or combined med-derm program. Would also look at programs that take a lot of Mh/PhDs

jhu as well

miami, utsw, ucsf, michigan

sinai?

yale

Idk what specific answer you’re looking for…. Quality research (first-author, novel research, no bullshit case report/research letter) preferably with faculty at a T5 institution, step score >260, amazing clinical LORs, and something cool, non-med/derm hobby or project on the side. Bonus points if you go to a T5 med school. And even after all of this, pray to the Gods. And then be a cool, normal person at interviews.

does it matter if your resesarch is accepted versus submitted-- for example if im first author on a translational work and its just submitted will this be a huge disadvantage

accepted is better than submitted, but at least you can put submitted on eras

my first-author research was accepted super late like a few days prior to start of derm interviews because mentor didn't care and tried to sabotage :/ I had to bring it up in interviews. Probably hurt my overall interviews but helped a lot to secure match.

there is no specific answer. you could try to google or talk to the residents accepted to these programs but even then you might not even know what secret sauce they have lol. but there's most likely something interesting about each one of them (even if it's personal history, prior career outside medicine). or you might know and not even realize what the programs are valuing.

Lol. Connections. I say this as someone that graduated from a top 5 program, matched derm, and watched a bunch of people with basically equivalent applications end up all over the place. You need to ask yourself why you want a top 5 program? What do you hope to gain? You planning on staying in academic derm? No one cares in the end.

sometimes fb in like mom chats or undergrad housing chats esp if youre there over the summer people sublease rooms, just be cautious of course and make sure you are talking to a real person etc.

i got rejected

did not hear anything

Stanford is on VSLO they are just done taking apps. I believe NYU also already closed

when will nyu decisions be out? have ppl heard?

got an offer from NYU but in november they say interviews aren't guaranted do people still usually get interviews

would you be willing to switch your NYU in november to september text me 985-807-7676

Worry about matching and don't obcess with T5! T5 match seems to be a lot of who you know, though.

anyone know how imgs match into t5 unis, meanwhile so many us applicants are trying to match

they tend to do research years (sometimes multiple) with PIs who have strong pull at their home programs. Of course they have great STEPS and work ethic, but the research years are really what cements a lot of their potential in matching

Yikes, why are we so snarky about IMGs matching. Imagine the goated application they must have had

IMGs will almost exclusively only match derm at a place they've done multiple RYs. This could be a top tier program (e.g. I think Penn, Stanford, Miami have taken some in the past) or not. They very likely grinded very hard and put in some good work and deserve that spot

What is considered "lower tier"? Some areas in CA are also more/less desirable than others

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What is considered "lower tier"? Some areas in CA are also more/less desirable than others << OP probably means like a Loma Linda compared to a Stanford

i think there is some truth to it, seems like ppl that i know ranked places in CA higher due to location. probs similar to NYC

coming from a CA school, i know a lot of ppl signaled and interviewed with smaller CA programs, but I chose not to signal bc there's so many applicants applying to these small programs with only 2 spots. felt like a long shot, esp when there are home students and away rotators who have a better chance

<I see. It seems that CA programs are just hard to into in general comparatively but for different reasons

UCSF

Desireable location is literally impossible to define. Some people will call Texas desireable. Others New York. Only you can evaluate.

edited to clarify

from what ive heard cornell is chillest in nyc

Yale (small city but liberal)

UCSF> lmfao chill and ucsf do not go together

University of Minnesota :)

What about UCSD? Seems chill and San Diego is amazing

UCSD?

stanford not in a city, but close to SF and definitely chill

UT Austin! (Not a lot of cosmetic training tho)

The best one is the one you like the most (+/- the one in the city you like the most)

This obsession with T5s, jeez. If it makes you happy, great! At the end of the day you will be a dermatologis though. People from not T5s end up as faculty at T5s all the time, and many T5 residents end up going into private practice.

catty resident at Stanford who treated me like sh** during my away and then was fake af during my interview

Two certain Harvard PIs who employ an army of research fellows and leave them hanging, also they play favorites...

weird Case resident that made tiktoks talking shit about the rotating med students

name and shame!!

not OP but sounds like Vinod Naubidiri or Steven Chen

Was this a PGY3??> lol i wish i could shame one place so much but it's too small >:( i think i've done enough shaming to the right people though

Someone drop the tea on Case lol they matched only home students

not OP but sounds like Vinod Naubidiri or Steven Chen >> Adena Rosenblatt at UChicago is a damn weirdo, and she has a passive aggressive MA that is rude to all the medical students.

super rude PGY3 at USC Derm I hated working with her

lol i wish i could shame one place so much but it's too small >:( i think i've done enough shaming to the right people though

how do Nambudiri and Chen play favorites?

yesss harvard is super bad institution nobody apply yall

Harvard RYs have good match though, why not apply? I see RYs who did research with Chen matched Harvard... like?

sounds like some salty people here this year

every year there are, always happens after match :P

i can't edit my comment but was being sarcastic w/ the nobody apply comment. the OP sounds a bit salty - not trying to invalidate the stress of RYs especially at a top institution that attracts great students

super rude PGY3 I hated working with her

Agree some oft the PGY3s at Case are so toxic

was the stanford resident a pgy-2?

case residents are so fake

yes, stanford in there too. there are really 6 T5 programs.

if you care about prestige... i wish you well

I'd say biggest difference is location/city vibes. also harvard covers hospitals in different locations vs some others are a bit more centralized, but boston maybe has better public transport than the others

when its derm, matching is all that matters

this

people talk badly about stanford on here but it's the best resident salary in the country (even accounting for COL) with a more balanced QOL than other T5 programs (Harvard, UCSF) idk

people talk badly about stanford on here but it's the best resident salary in the country (even accounting for COL) with a more balanced QOL than other T5 programs (Harvard, UCSF) idk >compare to penn?

people say the training at penn is better and i can't speak to that (certainly more big names at penn, more research output) but im not saying what program is best just that some great programs get hated on and its not super clear why to me

people say the training at penn is better (certainly more big names at penn, more research output) but even if true idk why people go after stanford

the less call/inpatient time the better

Stanford is trash

case in point :)

Where?

I don't think this is true> yes per sheriff of sodium video. from what i heard it was filled quickly when i talked to soap people on the second day there were no derm spots left

i thought nrmp data showed one seat unfilled

which program was it???

which program was it??? I think there was a Stanford physician only spot but don't see it listed on the Match list now

the unmatched spot was in the midwest according to NRMP data

I got 4 RTM calls. One is my top choice so we'll see if they're actually telling the truth. It might be a small group of people receiving the majority of them. I went to a T5 med school and did a RY at a neighboring research power house that was very productive. Most people march without them do don't worry!

ok this is my legit prediction i have no info to back this up. But what if the programs doing the RTM calls are the UPenn, Stanford, UCSF-type programs that don't want to lose out on applicants because they picked HMS. Akin to med school applications where programs knew based on historical data it would be hard to convince applicants to drop an HMS acceptance?

ucsf explicitly said they dont do these calls btw

ucsf student here, they do it undercover several classmates of mine got some

lmfao get real

yeah sure jan..

anyone know if harvard does RTM call

Ik the pd personally, they call 2-3 ppl (source resident)

omg i'm going to jump off of the golden gate bridge

i mean i guess that just means you're at the top of their list? which doesn't mean you won't match there

lol why would a harvard resident be on this gooner sheet

dude its hms, ofc they want you to beg for it with a LOI...

this is bullshit yall are lame

when does harvard usually do the RTM calls?

You guys really have no clue how hard it is for a resident to get dismissed. Any resident who was dismissed from a program likely had major issues either in or outside of medicine or both. No program wants to dismiss a resident, even a mediocre or bad one.

Stop vaguely referencing the lawsuit and just tell us the allegations or give the case title so we can actually look it up pls

chat saying: In the civil case captioned Adam Garibay v. Cook County, Steven Aks, and David Othman, the plaintiff’s complaint centers on wrongful conduct by his employer following his reporting of alleged misconduct by another doctor. According to the publicly-available case summary: Wrongful termination and retaliation: Garibay alleges that Cook County (his employer) terminated his employment in retaliation after he reported alleged misconduct by Dr. Krunic. The alleged misconduct he reported included physical abuse of a patient by Dr. Krunic. The complaint asserts that Garibay’s reporting of that alleged abuse and related issues was a protected act, and that defendants retaliated against him instead of addressing the alleged misconduct. >> Holyyyyy shit. what that's crazy

not unless you're cook county or Stanford

"you have no clue how hard it is for a resident to get dismissed" assumes that the program tried to keep the resident as long as possible.

it doesn't…it implies that the resident did something egregious

it seems very odd that this resident had already completed an entire residency and matched derm despite that, presumably requiring strong connections mentors support etc and now himself is suing CC. everything is alleged and maybe he did something horrible but the entire pictures looks bad on CC not the resident, especially when you see what he's suing them for

Stanford did NOT dismiss a resident, they elected to leave. not saying it isn't problematic that someone wanted to leave, but it's not the same thing as getting fired

fame and shame, 2 columns to the right of shame

bless u

so what happened? you have to subscribe to see anything> I put the end of the url "adam-garibay-vs-cook-county-steven-aks-david-othman" into chat and had it plain language summary me... looks like hes claiming retalition for him reporting something... sus on CC