2016-2017 Derm

seems like most say they require 3, but don't say a max. so do people typically send 3 or 4...? anyone know?

Some people submit 4 if they have 4 strong letters from well known derm faculty, others submit 3 and then a strong letter from either a research mentor or an attending in a field like medicine

feel like most people I talked to last year submitted 4

Sent 4 to all programs last year, even if they required 3, was totally fine. 3 derm 1 medicine

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can I upload a 3rd derm letter after this month's away (likely after Oct 1) or would that be too late?

If you release it to all the programs, it will depend on whether they download the letter. Most programs I've heard download in two batches to catch any stragglers, so theoretically you should be ok uploading that letter, but there's no guarantee a program will get it if they only do one batch download before Oct 1, does that make sense?|yes, thank you!

np! happy to help :)

in the same vein, when do TY interviews start? i assume a bit earlier than the derm interviews?

TY/prelim are in October/November. Most derm are in December/January and even a few in early February.

From last year: NY programs coordinate interviews usually for the last week of Jan, some Texas interviews happy in early Feb, hope other people chime in with trends they've noticed in the past

I know Boston does, any others? Did Mayo email you regarding the supplement?

ohio state

MAYO DOES

UT-Southwestern and BU

U Conn?? Just got an email from them

Indiana, UMass

Thank you for the heads up!!! || UPenn has a supplementary questionnaire on their website

only one I'm aware of on the website is Tufts.

UCSF, Cleveland Clinic...

FYI I got an interview at Tufts without taking either Step 2 yet

UCSF? I remember they want something special for Step 2

i think they require step 2 to be RANKED

That's what I understood from their official website, as well. Said need Step 2 scores to be ranked

Strange. is it possible they have both a regular and osteopathic track? their program director is a DO

that's what ERAS makes it look like so idk. All their residents are DO too

It was an osteopathic program that just merged with ACGME - this is their first year taking MD applicants it looks like

thanks!

Please everyone update the list. It will help future years as well. x2

Just so you know, last year, people filled out this information on away rotations AFTER rank lists were due. Nobody wants to take the chance of being "found out" before rank lists are turned in. Not a big deal as it's more for people who will be doing this next year, but just as an FYI as to when a lot of that sheet was filled out so people aren't intently waiting, hoping it will be filled out soon.

Got it. Just fyi I understand those concerns, and I filled out one of the away rotation impressions, but made it generic enough so that i couldn't be identified

haven't seen this on any websites

I haven't seen any that specifically ask for a letter from a non-dermatologist, that doesn't mean not to though. If you're going to do it, limit it to one.

New derm programs added, spots added here and there to existing programs that push for more resident spots, Physician (R) spots, etc.

<--- There has been a steady increase over the past 4-5 years in the number of dermatology spots offered

Is that like a flood of them as in, it is about to be inundated with new providers/gonna get radiology-ed

<--likely no: many spots existed outside the match before the "all-in residency" process a few years ago. A better estimate of the number of trainees comes from people who sat for the boards the first time and not numbers of spots officialy in the match

i think the only thing u can update after submitting is the personal section. you would prob need to email programs

Try to schedule them before Dec/Jan if you can, a lot of them do have spots in late Oct/Nov/early Dec, derm is busiest during January, avoid prelim interviews during Jan for sure if you can <------ This x1

Most prelim programs interview the bulk in October/November/early December, rarely in January (though some do). You'll naturally do prelims first and derm last just because of how scheduling works. Most derm programs interview in January.

You'll start getting interview invites for internship very quickly. Schedule those as early as you can and get them over with. Derm programs will take their lolly-gagging time for very few interview dates, so use those first few months to do those interviews.

You can't send to select schools, once you release, it will be uploaded so that any school can access it. However, not every school may re-download your application, so you never know who's actually going to see it. I've never had a derm program ask for it though, only had prelim programs bug me for it

Makes sense since they're affected the most if you don't start on time.

You can't send it to only the programs you want for the update. Once you click the thing on ERAS, it updates for everyone. The program has to check the portal though and usually once they download it, they won't go back, besides probably the programs that want Step 2 scores. Oops, the person before me said the exact same thing, sigh, sorry.

Thank you both!!!

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You can check on the spreadhseet from last year. From what I remember there weren't. rutgers 12/28

Isn't the Rutgers one for like 1 spot?

lolz high yield interview

lolz

Ha, ha, good one! A derm match is a derm match, right?

supposed to be 2 a year. they have really good hours for residents

Last Rutgers-NJMS derm match with 2 was in 2013, Rutgers-RWJMS has always been 1, at least since 2012.

12 prelim medicine/10 TY.

35 total

16 TY

| 15 prelim