What applicants said about Kaiser Permanente-Los Angeles-CA in the 2026 cycle

no prestige doesnt matter

Loma Linda derm has some of the nicest people i've ever met, I would recommend that away to a friend honestly. Heads up-- if you want a good shot there you got to do an away and signal gold.

i mean if cost of living is a major decider for you then yes

it's rough

UCLA and kaiser residents make 100k+ with housing stipend, more than enough to live in LA

depends some places like UF and Emory that interview all their rotators have a good chance of matching there because they are very selective on who they pick and they have a good track record of matching rotators, also they don't have too many rotators - Conversely, programs like UConn who have a ton of rotators and interview all of them, you don't really know if you have a good shot, also based on tea on this spreadsheet there's nepotism rumors, research fellows, etc. so your chances at a program like that may be lower and can give applicants false hope

anyone know about upmc?

UF interviews most of their rotators but also interviews a significant amount of non-rotators, plus away/gold seem to weigh less post-interview there. Certainly better than a lot of other programs but there are programs that only interview internals and more heavily weigh away/gold/etc post-interview as well. ^ It's the best when a program is very selective with away rotators and then interviews them all because it means you already have a high shot at being ranked. Places that take a ton of rotators and intreview all as a courtesy = waste of time for everyone and waste of hope.

what counts as a high number of away rotators? 20+? 30+?

some programs take 6 aways per month so do with that what you will

great bc they give you an interview! Not great if it doesn't correlate with true shot at a decent place on the rank list. But there's no true way to know and we will never know how the pie is made as applicants so whatever

. on OP's question, what programs interview all rotators?

where do we find number of away rotators a prgram takes per year?

Reapplicant here, from what ive seen from my away rotations and who they matched: my experience, they definitely take at least 1 away rotator depending on number of spots the program has. If they have internals + away rotators with better stats or from better schools with decent personalities, might not go your way. if you are one of those rotators with great stats and they don't have too many internals then you're in a great place to possibly match there

also depends on how the internals rank them - can't assume that all of the internals actually want to go there

Harbor-

not true. would say it's more accurate to say that all applicants interviewed will have done an away rotation. similar to Kaiser LA

theres a sidebar on some of the VSLO apps that show how many they accept per month, and then from there you can roughly calculate

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POOP

this is possible, yes. especially if you did aways at both.

Oh absolutely, people get both! it’s not a ‘one or the other’ Hunger Games situation. UCLA and Harbor-UCLA aren’t fighting over a single soul in some dramatic showdown. Honestly, it’s more like them high-fiving each other in secret, like, ‘Yup, we both want them.’ So yes, you can totally end up with both interviews and feel like you’ve hacked the derm system

lol this sounds accurate; add in USC to that too. I have no idea what Kaiser LA is doing over there though

UCSF is 11/17

echoing the henry ford question <3

I was also rejected from peds derm dates and ghosted on adult derm so far from UCSD

Kaiser LA actually has pretty good cosmetics training (and I think a lot of the PP residencies do too like samaritan)

former student there - do not bother applying here if you are not Mangold's fellow