any reasons for ranking that program lower?

I hated it during my away :'(

if you hated it on an away you likely won't love it while there for 3 years, don't let something as superficial as perceived "rank" make you miserable you'll still be a dermatologist on the other side so train where you think you'll be a balance of most happy and well-trained

thank you this is good advice I think I just needed a wake up. everyone has been questioning me so sometimes easy to get lost in the noise, ty for your kind response!!

fwiw, i dual applied IM and interviewed at a t20 IM program. I hated it. It's going on the bottom of my list even lower than community programs (I ended up loving them!) my family can't wrap their heads around the reason why, but I had to come to terms that I would hate to be somewhere like that just for the show of it, and I had to swallow my perceived pride and rank of such things to come to that conclusion.

I'm considering doing the same thing due to location. Agree that it feels weird. Fingers crossed we end up where we should!

i absolutely plan to rank on vibes and life, like it's a big draw to derm that you can actually have a life so why be somewhere just for the prestige. my box checking is over

it's also hard because I don't think I get that much from an interview day? it's so hard to catch the vibes!

wtf

OP: yes! honestly if I hadn't done an away then that program would've been my easy number 1 (highly ranked, great interview day)!! So I'm at least thankful I could spend a large portion of time there to see what's its really like and how much it's not for me

based on that interview day, i thought it wouldn't be a good fit because I asked the PD about culture and how you can get paired with a mentor and they told me "culture is no longer negative here, and for mentorship, this is a job not school so you need to go find them yourself" so was immediately turned off, LOL

sorry you had that experience; that is such a red flag

please add to fame/shame!