what does research year have to do with anything, i don't think there are different standards

honestly, >265. I go to a mid tier USMD and most people have above a 260+ applying. It seems to taper at 265 lol. I can't evne imagine what scores people at like Harvard have lol

Is 260 crap nowadays I'm tweaking

no thats not what i meant. I just meant its just standard good, its not impressive anymore. 260 feels like the new 255

is 265 that really of a difference from a 260?

I think so, just anecdotally. I don't know the statistical differences but it really does seem as though 75th percentile (260) is sort of the benchmark for people at my school applying into competitive specialties. Lots in the 260-265 range but it falls off at 265+, those few questions sure make a difference

percentiles have changed slightly as of June (dropping about 5ish percentile ranks, now a 250 is a 44th percentile and 260 is 71st percentile. i was super happy with my score until i saw the new ranks :( not too much different but still made me sad bc everything is just too competitive

You did great! I'm not trying to make a 260 not look impressive, it's just, ur so right, everything is becoming so competitive and board scores are only getting higher, but we are more than numbers. Your story matters! You passed the check mark with flying colors for board scores, so the rest of your application matters now :)

me reading this with a 254 lmao

how cooked are we chat

I'm so upset I got a 260 like i feel like that will be a differentiator at top programs

I mean Harvard's median step 2 is published and its not the highest out of the programs?

260 is still basically at the median for many of the top programs

median still >50% fam

exactly

I'm so upset I got a 260 like i feel like that will be a differentiator at top programs >i get that but this is insane. 260 is os good! be proud of yourself :)

just gonna put it out there that people with 275+ still do not match sometimes. dont worry about it

insufferable fr bleh this whole convo is just yuck

how is this insufferable lmao

I'm sorry but the way you think is why you won't match, it's not that serious

what

fr + 1 i agree. it's just annoying. like chill.

theyre annoyed by it bc theyre projecting...

yes totally projecting lol

fr + 1 i agree. it's just annoying. like chill.>youre choosing to b annoyed by it

it's like how ppl with low MCAT scores get mad at other premeds for being unhappy with their median score

nah it's kinda like it comes off immature and gunner-ish not so much the ppl upset w/ their scores but moreso thinking that higher prestige programs = higher scores like that's the primary factor that matters when determining who becomes a derm

literally no one said that lmfao, no one thinks it's the primary factor for matching into certain programs. It just immensely helps in covering your bases

i'll never understand this obsessesion with "top" programs and the hyperfixation on being competitive for them. Do you guys think this is the only thing that makes someone a good dermatologist? Its giving middle schooler who learned what an ivy league school is

well then continue not understanding, this post is not for you....

Lmao stay mad. This is why we hear stories every year of these students from top schools who go unmatched. They just arent competitive enough for these places to begin with but make their list with mostly reaches and t20 programs. The training at 90% of derm programs is great. All residents use the same resources to study.

It's clear that some top programs have similar training but they also tend to be in the best locations and have the best resources AKA better QOL. That's literally my reason for choosing

Man this thread is sad. I came from one of the top medical schools in the country and when it came to residency I opted for vibes/location. I interviewed at almost all the "top programs" in the country including the one at my medical school. I've never regretted my choice. You need to ask yourself what exactly it is you are chasing? I understand when it comes to medical school as it will help you match. Everyone that finishes dermatology residency ultimately becomes a dermatologist. I would make the argument that even *if* you want to stay in academia, it doesn't matter if you go to a "top 20" residency as so few people stay in academics in our field. Chill out peeps.

yea moreso a comment on how ppl get salty about people being worried about their 260

prob the same people who say "ivy league med school/residency" as if it equates to top program

yea moreso a comment on how ppl get bitter about people being worried about their 260