What applicants said about Baylor Coll Med-Houston-TX in the 2020 cycle

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One of the residents said they are recruiting 4 this cycle. No word about salary from the program itself, but this is on their website fwiw: https://www.bcm.edu/education/schools/medical-school/graduate-medical-education/trainee-resources/stipends

How late did the day go? Most people were done by like 2:45-3ish. Thanks.

<< Thanks for posting the link!

No prob :)

<i feel like someone asks this every single day. scroll down.

<nah, it's just more talk about UTSW, looking for a more complete discussion

<UTSW, UT Houston, Baylor Houston, UT san antonio, texas a n m, texas tech, dallas baylor <thanks!

<Austin???

< why are there so many Baylors but they're not event the same institution...

UTSW >>>> UT Houston > Baylor >>>> UTHSCSA = Texas A&M > Tech > Dallas. Austin's too new to say but I figure it'll end up similar to UT Houston.

UTSW wouldn’t be my #1 though so.... (I guess I mean purely based on quality/reputation, not location or personal preference)

lol its the reputation among residents that's bringing it down...good medicine though

the only residents who seem to say bad things about UTSW are those not at UTSW. Those at UTSW have wonderful things to say about their program

Can anyone elaborate on UT Austin?

it's in Austin, nuff said. basically #1 selling point of the program <They hired a lot of great faculty from other good schools. They will be a strong program with all that they are putting into it.

As a non-Texan, I don't understand the difference between Austin, Houston, and Dallas

Can we get an insider perspective on how the Texas programs rank similar to the CA discussion earlier? Seems like UTSW is the easy #1, but what about after that?

away rotator, haven't heard anything. possible that invites came out but I'm betting that it's just a mistake and BCM was confused for baylor dallas (again)

only one rejection? <<<any update on that? <<<<<OP here, OOPS just realized it was for the prelim program, I'm so numb to rejections now I assume they're for derm lmao

arent those the only two left? what about casewestern?

there's a lot left (loma linda, case western, einstein, brown ucla, fsu, temple, baylor in dallas, etc.)

I have about 10 places I applied to that have not sent invites/external invites...and I did not apply everywhere x2 <just look at the interview invites spreadsheet to see who's left

has baylor come out? (it seems that baylor houston already did)

baylor houston came out for internals only so far (pls correct this if I'm wrong)

After you're invited, the interview is what matters most. It seems unfair, but because the dermatology department is so small, you will work with most of the people that you see during the interview. For that reason, people want to see that you can work well with everyone and most importantly, that they'd want to work with you. << who is this coming from? someone on inside of process? I can't imagine them ranking applicants based solely on these very surface level 10 min conversations, anyone can pretend for 10 mins. << you're talking about people who would grant external applicants interviews based on their resume compared to away rotators who they've known for 4 weeks, so yeah i can completely see these people making decisions based on 10 minutes of talking to them.

< Do you think courtesy interview applicants have an equal chance as everyone else?

It really depends on you and whether your scores and apps are comparable to the non-courtesy interview candidates.<<this suggests that interiews arent the end all be all in ranking then? because presumably even if you have a couresy interview, you still have an interview, and would be on the same playing field as everyone else --- NO, true courtesy interviews do not have an equal chance. Courtesy interviews are for when a program hates a rotator or home student, but rather than outright reject them, they interview them anyways, with no intention to rank or with the intention of putting them dead last. It is just a way to avoid drama and hurt feelings, rather than cause drama. The definition of a true courtesy interview is an interview granted to assuage feelings without actually giving the interviewee serious consideration. Anything else is a real interview and not a courtesy interview. <- What about if a mentor reached out to a program and you received an interview? It's not a technical courtesy invite, but you don't know if you would have gotten it otherwise

how the heck would someone even know if they were a courtesy invite?

OP poster here about courtesy interviews. I guess I was using that term loosely to include away rotators since some aways interview all candidates...but can't answer that question << there's almost no way to know if you're a courtesy interview unless you know you didn't perform well on the away rotation. its exactly what you said, most likely behind-the-scenes you'll be taken off the list but they can say they interview all away rotators. the moral of the story, as in every interview, is everyone lies all the time. Agree with what wa ssaid above that unfortunately you'll never know if you were a courtesy interview or not, so not matter what don't sweat it.

<- good example is UTH. They interview all rotators in the rotation, but in their current class only 1 of the residents was a rotator (the rest were external). They sometimes have up to 10 rotators in a month, so if you do the math, they should have > half of their residents from rotators, but this is not the case << im going to play a lot of devils advocate here. it is possible - NOT PROBABLE, but POSSIBLE - that the away rotators ranked them a bit lower on their own list and matched higher, so the rotators list and UTH list did not match up, and the effect is what you're seeing. but yes i agree it was most likely courtesy interviews so UTH could say that they interview all rotators, and appear attractive to new applicants selecting away rotations. for every story about a program burning an applicant, there is a story about an applicant burning a program. i think it's the derm law of ranking or whatever other clever name it should be called. --> True!

->does UTH stand for Utah? -> hoping it stands for UT Houston, but not sure > yes UT Houston is UTH. abbreviating Utah by one letter would be not kewl

must be internals! no need to worry

apparently n=1

Could either of the now n=2 please clarify details

Yes, BCM did send out invitations today. I think it may have been for internal applicants only. // Thank you! // Word on the street is you have double digit internals?? Only 12 not too bad

12 is a ton LOLx2

i have pressed F in the chat for double digit internal applicants

what?

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/press-f-to-pay-respects <lol thanks for the education!

congrats x3 :\ interview dates? Jan 24

<Is this the Baylor in Houston or Dallas?

lol was it just the one invite?

might be trickle down BSW? <but isn't that the one in Temple TX?<yes

It’s BCM in Houston

<- what??? Can anyone confirm this? <not OP, yes BCM Houston did send invitations today, but it looks like it was only to internal applicants today

<Is this the Baylor in Houston or Dallas?

lol was it just the one invite?

might be trickle down BSW? <but isn't that the one in Temple TX?<yes

It’s BCM in Houston

<- what??? Can anyone confirm this? <not OP, yes BCM Houston did send invitations today, but it looks like it was only to internal applicants today

How late did the day go? Most people were done by like 2:45-3ish. Thanks.

<< Thanks for posting the link!

No prob :)

<< outing derm program nepotism, for example, students who match at a parent's place of employment, is arguably an important step moving forward to discourage future foul play. thank you to all brave whistleblowers! <Yeah, the tier list is pointless. No need to give it any thought. While it is pointless, I really like there is an explanation why we should move those 3 programs down... TBH the explanation was pretty good haha << There is also a lot of bias since it is easier to try to move programs like Hopkins or Vandy higher on the list since those names have a better brand name... tier list is so silly in a field like derm where the vast majority of us are going to be in private practice. At which point 99% of patients don't give a shit where you did residency. << haha, someone deleted a comment about Harvard nepotism

#REF!

<<I have no issue with nepotism. If I have kids who want derm residency, I will definitely make phone calls and cash in favors. That’s how the world works. FWIW I’m a derm resident who matched without nepotism.

just because something DOES happen doesn't mean something SHOULD happen. yes, that's "the way the world works" but is arguably NOT the way the world should work.

there's a lot left (loma linda, case western, einstein, brown ucla, fsu, temple, baylor in dallas, etc.)

I have about 10 places I applied to that have not sent invites/external invites...and I did not apply everywhere x2 <just look at the interview invites spreadsheet to see who's left

has baylor come out? (it seems that baylor houston already did)

baylor houston came out for internals only so far (pls correct this if I'm wrong)