Laughing at the Fame and Shame for UT-Houston's (now McGovern) Derm program for their MS-4 audition rotation. Kind of funny how nothing has changed in terms of the faculty (even w/one prominent faculty member having retired) which kind of transfers to the residents after awhile. And the program has really great institutions like MD Anderson Cancer Center. I always wondered how those outside of Texas saw the program when they rotated because as home students, we were so used to it and I agree, they don't do a good job explaining the different sites and faculty weren't very understanding on the commute between sites.
I feel like knowing where to do your audition rotations is so critical to matching but if you're outside of the state, you only know if you have inside information on how the actual residency program runs, which it seems like only home med students know.
Mar 27
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I feel like knowing where to do your audition rotations is so critical to matching but if you're outside of the state, you only know if you have inside information on how the actual residency program runs, which it seems like only home med students know. But I feel like only certain types of students can rotate at places like Penn, Harvard, UCSF, etc. and have a reasonable chance of getting an interview. For most of us, it's a waste.
Mar 28
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the cliquiness is sooo true. I felt put off at the social event because the residents would specifically interact and be super friendly with all the rotaters/internal students they knew, and no one knew me in the zoom call
Mar 28
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are there any programs that still have interview slots open on thalamus?
how many interview spots and days did mcgovern have
Feb 21
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Why do some years a derm residnecy will match like 1 more person? so for example if there are 4 reisdency matches to that program one year, 5 the next, and back to 4?
Because some programs add a special spot just for a specific applicant. Did an away and a resident told me their PD pulled HEAVY for them and got the other PD to create a spot (funding availability too)
Feb 21
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it depends on a few things, but usually a program just wants a specific person (often it is an RY candidate who already did their PGY-1 and is looking for a PGY-2 spot). This means oftentimes programs will have 5 one year then 3 the next (if its a 4 resident program) or 5 then back to 4, etc. Lots of niche details but that's the gist afaik
Feb 21
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It's largely tied to funding, typically you will see programs alternate between some number plus or minus one every year
Feb 21
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my home program alternates due to funding issues (have 13 spots so it's 4, 4, 5)
Feb 21
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mine does the same, doesn't have anything to do with a specific applicant, they just can only have a max of X residents
Feb 21
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POOP
Feb 21
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my home program alternates due to funding issues (have 13 spots so it's 4, 4, 5)
Mar 7
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mine does the same, doesn't have anything to do with a specific applicant, they just can only have a max of X residents
Mar 7
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aside from the comment below do any aways open in january?
The part about UT Houston only interviewing aways needs to be fixed on the Away Tab, also someone put that Texas Tech was only interviewing away rotators and this is also not true
I appreciate the admitting that it's impossible to match anymore lol
Feb 21
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yeah truly appreciated it
Feb 21
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can someone share with the class
Feb 21
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spilll what did they say
Feb 21
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"If is any consolation, I can tell you that I probably would not have even selected myself for an interview if I were to have applied today. Best wishes for the future." - why does that sound like what the derm chair would say, iykyk
Feb 21
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hahahaha oh Ron
Feb 21
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they send the same copy and paste rejection every year
Feb 21
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ugh I hate when this is said… people said it about med school apps too and it comes across as "wow I had it way easier than you, that sucks for you… anyways enjoy suffering 🤗"
Feb 21
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POOP
Feb 21
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"If is any consolation, I can tell you that I probably would not have even selected myself for an interview if I were to have applied today. Best wishes for the future." - why does that sound like what the derm chair would say, iykyk
Mar 7
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hahahaha oh Ron
Mar 7
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they send the same copy and paste rejection every year
Mar 7
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ugh I hate when this is said… people said it about med school apps too and it comes across as "wow I had it way easier than you, that sucks for you… anyways enjoy suffering 🤗"
Mar 7
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Thinking of backup plans if I don't match and wanted some insight 1) would be completing a TY/Prelim followed by a research fellowship at a program that has a strong track record of taking research fellows 2) delaying graduation by a couple semesters so I am allowed to do VSLO and complete 4-5 away rotations - I've heard several people do this route because when applying they are still classified as a medical student with is apparently better than an MD graduate? What is everyone's thoughts? Kinda feel like I am pigeon-holing myself into one program if I do the research fellow track but not sure if doing a ton of aways will help since I will be at those programs for a month or less... I also would like to add that I have 20+ pubmed indexed derm articles so research isn't my weakpoint, I think I excel clinically and basically was thinking having more facetime with programs would help if I reapply
I honestly think that it will be more beneficial for you to extend a year and do another degree like MPH or MBA, because realistically, in the time you're reapplying, they're going to wonder what changes you made to your initial application (obviously that is cost inefficient and not feasible for many people so take with a grain of salt)
Feb 21
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> OP here, I ended up doing 2 aways (no home program) and only ended up with interviews at those two programs (one being UConn lol) so that's why I was considering extending graduation to do several more aways hoping they will turn into interviews if I don't match but yeah I'm concerned that it's a big risk to take since there's no guarantee I'll get 5-6 more aways as that's also a competitive process
Feb 21
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where was your other away? If that program has a decent class size maybe you would be okay, all you need is 1 and do you have any strong connections to either aways
Feb 21
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the other program has 7 spots so it's a bigger program, honestly not sure if I have a "strong relationship" with either program but I have worked with ppl at both institutions
Feb 21
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7 spots is huge but I guess it depends how many internals that program has
Feb 21
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the program is interviewing 70+ ppl and has a ton of rotators so idk ig we will see what happens but yeah that's why I am thinking of a backup plan
Feb 21
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Is this UT Houston?
Feb 21
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UConn is really ruining ppl with these courtesy interviews
Feb 21
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ikr basically it's the same as having no interview - hearing all the UConn tea and lore doesn't make me feel any better
Feb 21
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I guess the "bad year to apply" has to have some truth to it. Rip one away
Feb 21
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POOP
Feb 21
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where was your other away? If that program has a decent class size maybe you would be okay, all you need is 1 and do you have any strong connections to either aways
Mar 7
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the other program has 7 spots so it's a bigger program, honestly not sure if I have a "strong relationship" with either program but I have worked with ppl at both institutions
Mar 7
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7 spots is huge but I guess it depends how many internals that program has
Mar 7
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the program is interviewing 70+ ppl and has a ton of rotators so idk ig we will see what happens but yeah that's why I am thinking of a backup plan
Mar 7
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Is this UT Houston?
Mar 7
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ikr basically it's the same as having no interview - hearing all the UConn tea and lore doesn't make me feel any better
Mar 7
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I guess the "bad year to apply" has to have some truth to it. Rip one away
lol people might be shy to report it but a friend gave me the intel. Who knows it could be rolling invites so just keeping an open mind,. >the II was sent for home students for 12/12. I think they're still releasing others on 12/1
Feb 21
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Any RY fellowships that basically guarantee match? Pls don't say Sinai because I go there and they don't guarantee
Dell in Texas has matched their fellow every year for the past several years
Feb 21
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Hebert doesn't know if she will have one and Dell lost funding for this upcoming year for their RY> UH case
Feb 21
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northwell Garg it looks like
Feb 21
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UH CASE DOES NOT GUARANTEE (HORRIBLE REP OF NOT MATCHING FELLOW PRE DOC AND POST DOC)
Feb 21
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thoughts on UT Houston (McGovern) away if no connection to Texas? I read on the spreadsheet that they interview away rotators but their past matches look like it's mostly people from Texas/people who have a connection to Texas so not sure if it's worth it> It's really not worth. TX is a big state and they usually do NOT take applicants, even with strong ties to TX if they're not from TX school. Last year, I did an away and wish I did another away I turned down...
I have three aways on my radar and luckily one accepted me. I have a home program so was hoping to do 2 aways. The two programs I havent heard from yet at UT Houston and Howard. If I had to choose one vs the other to accept (god willing I have the choice, which should I pick and why)
Neither are good tbh but pick Houston. Howard's pay is horrendous.
Feb 21
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I disagree. Howard residents are wonderful and while DC is expensive, look at the happiness of the residents too. Clearly they're happy and that says a lot despite lower pay
Feb 21
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Howard is that you>howard does aways???
Feb 21
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I disagree. Howard residents are wonderful and while DC is expensive, look at the happiness of the residents too. Clearly they're happy and that says a lot despite lower pay
Mar 7
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Howard is that you>howard does aways???
Mar 7
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Does anybody know if UT Houston ever accepted non away rotators
I feel like knowing where to do your audition rotations is so critical to matching but if you're outside of the state, you only know if you have inside information on how the actual residency program runs, which it seems like only home med students know.