Really struggling to choose between Colorado and UC Irvine. Anyone have any advice? That's super tough, both are super great options. <Thanks for everyones advice! I found it really helpful.
did an away at irvine (did not interview so no conflict of interest here lol) & honestly I'd easily choose colorado. Only reason to pick irvine would be if you had a burning desire to be in SoCal. Otherwise there's a ton of driving, packed schedules with lots of boring skin checks/follow ups, lack of diversity in both pt demographics and pathology. just overall the most uninteresting rotation I went on. Thought alot of ppl were weird too
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PGY-1 here. Colorado>UCI, unless you need to be in SoCal. I did an away last year at Colorado and unfortunately didn't get an interview, but when I was there, all the residents and faculty were so incredibly happy. Happiest program I've seen yet.
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<<also a PGY-1, I also did an away at CO and didn't get an interview, despite this I'm not salty still think it's an amazing program, Colorado >>> UCI, really strong clinicals, strong surgery, strong basic science, strong peds derm, tons of VA autonomy, chair is really nice, residents were cool, everything is in a central location with minimal driving, facilities are gorgeous especially the VA, location/Denver is great - can't say anything bad about it // on that note... can't recommend Colorado for an away rotation, because less than half of the rotators get interviews
heard it used to be great, but there have been some turnover with faculty (many leaving to USC, which is now considered a better program by some)> they have very little info on the website<anyone have any idea when the interview day will end?
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email said around 1 oh please, I just hate the lies some times. USC as a health system was recently on probation. They are not jumping from UCLA in droves to USC.
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this is actually not true - several faculty have been poached from UCLA to USC (in "droves") <yes, including USC's current PD and head Mohs surgeon.
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before or after probation issues? Also 2 people don't constitute 'droves'
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some after, some before. probation issues had nothing to do with the derm department. there are more than those 2.
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either you have a UCLA invite and not a USC invite, or you haven't spent much time with both depts...
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you don't have to believe me, look up their faculty list and see for yourself
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☕☕☕
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um, UCLA has like 8 more faculty than USC
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quality, not quantity honey
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<not a top CA program <There are many solid CA programs and UCLA is included in that. I know someone who ranked UCLA over UCSF & Stanford partially for locations reasons, but they did not feel like they were sacrificing quality of education. <Great location, but still not a top program compared to every others in CA. <true
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not true
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Stanford & UCSF are on another level, then UCSD, then UC-davis, UCLA & USC
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would consider lower tier program. Not a department (it's a division under medicine) so there is limited upside for improvements. Location is amazing though if you want to be in SoCal x4 .
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Would not say low tier. Would pick it above most of the 100+ programs, but not top tier/upper
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In order: Stanford/USCF, UCSD, UC-Davis, UCLA, USC, UC-Irvine, Loma Linda/UCLA-Harbor, Kaiser Permanente, Opti West (Newport)
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UCLA and UC Davis are not above USC
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This one line represents the horrible sabotage that is going to plague every question about california programs this season
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This whole thread is ridiculous. Pick whichever CA program suits you the best. Derm reputations are mostly based on how long the program has been around and how much research money they have. Remember that matching at a "top tier derm program" may be seen as > matching to other programs, but they're >>>>>>>>> not matching. Regardless, you'll be the envy of every other non-derm doctor
<Congrats. Method? Internal? <also dates please! <eras, east coast, no ties, 1/11 and 1/25 <ty<MSTP
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<external, didn't rotate, but regional tie
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Kill me x 2<hoping this was sent via carrier pigeon which is why i haven't received
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CA with these late evening invites...
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< lol you mean late evening rejections... but to be fair, they are 2 hours behind the midwest and 3 hours behind the east coast
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So the schools that we're currently waiting for that have sent their invitations around this date: UCLA, UWashington, Irvine, USC/LAC, LAC/UCLA, UCSD, Penn?
check the PD-made interview calender <it's not on there, which is why people keep asking about it
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do we know if cornell was internal orr all?
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Cornell has ~4-5 spots, so I would have expected more invites to have been represented as part of the self-report. Also, the only people who responded to that question were internals
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Anyone know dates for the following programs (looking at you, internals and rotators): Cornell, Mt. Sinai, UC-Irvine x2 *i rotated and know nothing
did cornell externals go out? <just internals it seems
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<unclear
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Where can I find the calender that the PD put together for dates again? I can't find it anymore PDs/DIGA/Anyone, can you please add missing ones: Kansas, Baylor (Dallas), UConn, UC-Irvine, Florida State, Georgia, Maryland, Icahn Mount Sinai, New York Medical College, University Hospitals, Wright State, Cornell, Roger Williams, Tennessee
Ugh, that moment when you see "AAMC email" and it's just confirmation for an upcoming prelim interview. << lol, so true
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did an away at irvine (did not interview so no conflict of interest here lol) & honestly I'd easily choose colorado. Only reason to pick irvine would be if you had a burning desire to be in SoCal. Otherwise there's a ton of driving, packed schedules with lots of boring skin checks/follow ups, lack of diversity in both pt demographics and pathology. just overall the most uninteresting rotation I went on. Thought alot of ppl were weird too
PGY-1 here. Colorado>UCI, unless you need to be in SoCal. I did an away last year at Colorado and unfortunately didn't get an interview, but when I was there, all the residents and faculty were so incredibly happy. Happiest program I've seen yet.
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<<also a PGY-1, I also did an away at CO and didn't get an interview, despite this I'm not salty still think it's an amazing program, Colorado >>> UCI, really strong clinicals, strong surgery, strong basic science, strong peds derm, tons of VA autonomy, chair is really nice, residents were cool, everything is in a central location with minimal driving, facilities are gorgeous especially the VA, location/Denver is great - can't say anything bad about it // on that note... can't recommend Colorado for an away rotation, because less than half of the rotators get interviews
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UCI chair is leaving...
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heard it used to be great, but there have been some turnover with faculty (many leaving to USC, which is now considered a better program by some)> they have very little info on the website<anyone have any idea when the interview day will end?
email said around 1 oh please, I just hate the lies some times. USC as a health system was recently on probation. They are not jumping from UCLA in droves to USC.
Mar 23
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this is actually not true - several faculty have been poached from UCLA to USC (in "droves") <yes, including USC's current PD and head Mohs surgeon.
Mar 23
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before or after probation issues? Also 2 people don't constitute 'droves'
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some after, some before. probation issues had nothing to do with the derm department. there are more than those 2.
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either you have a UCLA invite and not a USC invite, or you haven't spent much time with both depts...
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you don't have to believe me, look up their faculty list and see for yourself
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☕☕☕
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um, UCLA has like 8 more faculty than USC
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quality, not quantity honey
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<not a top CA program <There are many solid CA programs and UCLA is included in that. I know someone who ranked UCLA over UCSF & Stanford partially for locations reasons, but they did not feel like they were sacrificing quality of education. <Great location, but still not a top program compared to every others in CA. <true
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not true
Mar 23
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Stanford & UCSF are on another level, then UCSD, then UC-davis, UCLA & USC
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would consider lower tier program. Not a department (it's a division under medicine) so there is limited upside for improvements. Location is amazing though if you want to be in SoCal x4 .
Mar 23
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Would not say low tier. Would pick it above most of the 100+ programs, but not top tier/upper
Mar 23
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In order: Stanford/USCF, UCSD, UC-Davis, UCLA, USC, UC-Irvine, Loma Linda/UCLA-Harbor, Kaiser Permanente, Opti West (Newport)
Mar 23
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UCLA and UC Davis are not above USC
Mar 23
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This one line represents the horrible sabotage that is going to plague every question about california programs this season
Mar 23
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This whole thread is ridiculous. Pick whichever CA program suits you the best. Derm reputations are mostly based on how long the program has been around and how much research money they have. Remember that matching at a "top tier derm program" may be seen as > matching to other programs, but they're >>>>>>>>> not matching. Regardless, you'll be the envy of every other non-derm doctor
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f this one hurts << the proximity of the email had me thinking I had an invite LOL
check the PD-made interview calender <it's not on there, which is why people keep asking about it
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do we know if cornell was internal orr all?
Mar 23
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Cornell has ~4-5 spots, so I would have expected more invites to have been represented as part of the self-report. Also, the only people who responded to that question were internals
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Some posts are shown because their comments mention this program.
did an away at irvine (did not interview so no conflict of interest here lol) & honestly I'd easily choose colorado. Only reason to pick irvine would be if you had a burning desire to be in SoCal. Otherwise there's a ton of driving, packed schedules with lots of boring skin checks/follow ups, lack of diversity in both pt demographics and pathology. just overall the most uninteresting rotation I went on. Thought alot of ppl were weird too