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Anyone else having trouble ranking Utah? It's a great program, lots of resources, amazing faculty... but Salt Lake. // Salt Lake City is actually a highly desirable place to live. I know a LOT of people that want to live there, and it's competitive to get jobs out there. // it depends on what you want. The downtown is meh compared to most cities. Also the <1% African American population is not exactly ideal for training / learning SoC // best place in the US for the great outdoors -- You'll be a competent dermatologist anywhere you go regardless of the demographics, people just like to act like unless you see 50% skin of color, you won't be able to treat these patints and that's just not true. Utah graduates do great work including for patients of color and to suggest otherwise is absurd<< I asked the PD about this at my interview and he agreed that it was a weakness. He also said it's ok because they're trying to train dermatologists who practice in the mountain west, and Utah/SLC resembles the region demographically - Also while Utah as a whole is not diverse, Salt Lake City actually is

#2631Mar 23

bruh, SLC is one of the most desirable locations in the US. It's kind of like Austin/Nashville/Denver where it hasn't always been a hot spot like Boston/San Fran/NYC, but young people have been flocking there in recent years. TBH though, SLC is still not a great place to live if you are a minority. And don't be fooled by how "progressive" it is. It's smack in the middle of mormon country. Great skiing though. anyone know how progressive SLC is? what is a desirable city for certain demographics may not be as welcoming for others <-- There is actually a pretty strong LGBT community in SLC.

Mar 23
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Utah is amazing!

Mar 23
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Utah is terrible. It would be foolish to rank it. Also why are we wasting time talking about non-top 5 programs? --- Utah is solid top ~10-15 program which is still very good even if it's not Harvard. Also Utah is okay, but Salt Lake City is incredible

Mar 23
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you're really sabotaging my misinformation about Utah campaign << Sorry my bad :(

Mar 23
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Did an away and grew up in SLC: If you like the outdoors, then it is a great place to train. People are generally nice. Relatively low crime. Not very much diversity if that is something important to you. Interestingly, one of the largest dermatology faculties in the nation, yet probably the least diverse. You might argue that this is reflective of the population of Utah, but other specialties at the U are WAY more diverse than derm. Some of this could be blamed on lack of diversity in derm as a whole and difficulty recruiting minorities to Utah, but come on... Not a single brown or black person on faculty of 40-50. Pretty shameful. << this. not having a brown or black person as a faculty in derm is not uncommon even in diverse/big programs... <examples?

Mar 23
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utah is amazing!! my favorite state!

Mar 23
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