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why is this sheet still so chaotic lmfao i just came to peep that match list> why do people see this discourse as a bad thing? It's better to let people get this stuff out, challenge each other, and learn from each other than hold these thoughts in?? People are thinking this stuff, I'd rather know it than not

#4126Mar 21

and with that one has to be prepared for responses from all sides> yeah! we shouldn't just shut stuff down because it's an argument. Arguments are like core to understanding the world and ourselves, this is a sheet you can exit out of if you want

Mar 21
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agreed but we should be able to have respectful discourse and this tends to turn into ppl just talking about how URMs are getting undeserved opportunities. If thats what ppl want to express fine, but when ppl push back, that should not be shut down or invalidated either. Ppl make it seem like URMs are sitting around twiddling their thumbs and not also working their assess off

Mar 21
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I agree completely. I think we can agree that the average derm applicant is a badass

Mar 21
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becauase people are mad lol < so y'all think top programs interviewed the same 10 students our of the 50 or so that applied by luck? you don't think those 10 students wiped the floor with your white asses by working harder since they tend to also come from no name schools. you think this is all charity? LOOOOL< no they don't think that. I think very few people wipe the floor at all, we're all pretty competitive. > people are misunderstanding this as an attack on URMs. Literally it's a call to monitor the institutions making admissions decisions and make sure these proportions aren't insanely shifted. I'm sorry but there were talented URMs in previous cycles I'm sure and these programs didn't match 33%. In fact they were biased against URNs prob. But this app it seems shifts starkly the other way. I understand the forces that led to this but if it were to continue it would be weird for everyone >> lol ....what??

Mar 21
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it was unfair this cycle, just facts

Mar 21
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how is that weird? Just as you were right to say 0 to 10% URM is fucked it's also weird to have 0-10% ORM, when there are far more applicants from that pool at top places

Mar 21
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it is easier to be competitive from northwestern compared to say howard. and btw most come from no name schools because harvard/penn etc until a black man was killed two years ago did not know that black people needed to be in med school too.

Mar 21
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It's so reductionist to attribute a URMs success to the color of their skin.

Mar 21
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surprise surprise - if you talk to enough URMs there are those with lower stats who match or match better than URMs with higher stats. derm is derm and its a tough match all around < imagine how shitty it must feel as a URM reading this spreadsheet and realizing these people who think you're not as capable as them are going to be your co-residents

Mar 21
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