❌1. Interview day was brutal and inefficient. 14 (!!) 8-minute interviews back-to-back with little break in-between. Program coordinator was super nice but disorganized and we ended up finishing almost an hour over time. Interviewers were super distant, most of them barely smiled when they met me, and seemed bored/uninterested the whole time.
💬1. Seem to only take their home students now. No longer seem to take DOs either. Heard through the grapevine they kept some home students safe who wouldn't have matched at all anywhere. Great for those students, but definitely take this into account when signaling/rotating.
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What schools only take research fellows? I've heard Mount Sinai and Mayo Arizona but are there others? Same with away rotators only (basically which programs to avoid signalling unless you rotated at)
I think most small programs 2 or fewer reisdents/class tend to take primarily away rotators/fellows not just Mayo AZ, however mayo AZ especially isnt worth it unless you did a research fellowship with them. Sinai also as you said, but they are a big program just with tons of fellows that are essentially guaranteed a spot. UCLA also past years has also taken primarily research fellows. Programs that heavily favor away rotators tend to be NYC programs, especially cornell. Texas programs tend to primarily recruit from texas schools or away rotators with texas connections. USF primarily takes those with regional connections. CWRU usually takes home students and their own research fellows. Wouldnt even bother with the Larkin programs unless you have no other choice and can pay for a spot. Hopefully this is helpful, will try to add more if I think of any
Aug 15
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i think this is all good info but if your mentor has connecs and advocates for u, can still get interview w/o rotating/RY
Aug 16
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Texas programs will take Texans that went to medical school outside of the state (got interviews at every Texas school I applied to and did medical school in another state - am Texan)
Aug 26
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I have a rotation at Case Western - UH in February. Anyone interested in switching for an earlier date?
Ideally a program with a home Mohs program in addition to a track record of Mohs matches (ideally multiple per year). Obv this depends on the residency class and who wants to do Mohs, but if a program has not had a Mohs match for like 3+ years that would be a red flag to me
Apr 8
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Also a program with really strong procedural derm access is important. Usually these include places with a county hospital and VA, in addition to community hospitals + university hospitals for surg training
Even more important than rotation mills are programs that only take their own research fellows. While rotation mills will still interview and match a percentage of their rotators (with variability between programs), programs that only take their research fellows will rotate and interview many of their rotators, but ultimately offer little to no chance of matching for those outside their fellows.
Apr 2
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what programs do this besides sinai
Apr 2
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what programs do this besides sinai, Mayo AZ
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Rotating, signaling, and interviewing at these programs is a waste of time and is performative; they already know who they plan to take for the upcoming cycle
Apr 2
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WashU
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very true. Do NOT waste your time at Mayo AZ or Sinai. UConn also (at least this year). CWRU as well is a major rotation mill people need to talk more about
Apr 3
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UCONN
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Penn
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Wake
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CWRU
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northwestern
Apr 9
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Every other year uconn has taken a lot of their away rotators, including all their current residents.
i mean i assume some arent thoroughly looked at my PDs or chairs. SOme are most likely first come first serve but also increase your chance for an interview.
Apr 7
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CWRU is first come first serve, and the PC picks them all
Apr 7
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definitely not
Sep 29
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Anyone rotating at University Hospitals (case western) starting Monday? Wondering if anyone got the schedule
Just to rant— I find it so odd that some of these schools use a program coordinator to pick away rotators and then those are the applicants that get interviews meanwhile others are at a disadvantage.
i mean i assume some arent thoroughly looked at my PDs or chairs. SOme are most likely first come first serve but also increase your chance for an interview.
Apr 1
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CWRU is first come first serve, and the PC picks them all
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I think most small programs 2 or fewer reisdents/class tend to take primarily away rotators/fellows not just Mayo AZ, however mayo AZ especially isnt worth it unless you did a research fellowship with them. Sinai also as you said, but they are a big program just with tons of fellows that are essentially guaranteed a spot. UCLA also past years has also taken primarily research fellows. Programs that heavily favor away rotators tend to be NYC programs, especially cornell. Texas programs tend to primarily recruit from texas schools or away rotators with texas connections. USF primarily takes those with regional connections. CWRU usually takes home students and their own research fellows. Wouldnt even bother with the Larkin programs unless you have no other choice and can pay for a spot. Hopefully this is helpful, will try to add more if I think of any