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I have a rotation at Case Western - UH in February. Anyone interested in switching for an earlier date?
Case Western/Univ Hosps Cleveland Med Ctr-OH
Case Western UHCleveland, OH
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Sentiment score: 3.2 / 10
Applicants express significant confusion about the program's structure, particularly regarding the distinction between University Hospitals Cleveland Medical Center and MetroHealth (both affiliated with Case Western), interview invite timing and criteria, and a questionnaire that screens applicants heavily on metrics. Sentiment is notably negative, with concerns about the program's reputation, culture, and match outcomes, though some logistical confusion dominates the discussion.
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what is the best program for mohs?
Ideally a program with a home Mohs program in addition to a track record of Mohs matches (ideally multiple per year). Obv this depends on the residency class and who wants to do Mohs, but if a program has not had a Mohs match for like 3+ years that would be a red flag to me
Apr 8
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Also a program with really strong procedural derm access is important. Usually these include places with a county hospital and VA, in addition to community hospitals + university hospitals for surg training
Apr 8
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Which programs are known rotation mills?
Harvard
Apr 2
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USC
Apr 2
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Even more important than rotation mills are programs that only take their own research fellows. While rotation mills will still interview and match a percentage of their rotators (with variability between programs), programs that only take their research fellows will rotate and interview many of their rotators, but ultimately offer little to no chance of matching for those outside their fellows.
Apr 2
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what programs do this besides sinai
Apr 2
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what programs do this besides sinai, Mayo AZ
Apr 2
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Rotating, signaling, and interviewing at these programs is a waste of time and is performative; they already know who they plan to take for the upcoming cycle
Apr 2
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WashU
Apr 3
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very true. Do NOT waste your time at Mayo AZ or Sinai. UConn also (at least this year). CWRU as well is a major rotation mill people need to talk more about
Apr 3
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UCONN
Apr 3
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Penn
Apr 7
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Wake
Apr 8
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CWRU
Apr 8
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northwestern
Apr 9
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How do you know they do this
Apr 7
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i mean i assume some arent thoroughly looked at my PDs or chairs. SOme are most likely first come first serve but also increase your chance for an interview.
Apr 7
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CWRU is first come first serve, and the PC picks them all
Apr 7
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Just to rant— I find it so odd that some of these schools use a program coordinator to pick away rotators and then those are the applicants that get interviews meanwhile others are at a disadvantage.
How do you know they do this
Mar 31
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i mean i assume some arent thoroughly looked at my PDs or chairs. SOme are most likely first come first serve but also increase your chance for an interview.
Apr 1
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CWRU is first come first serve, and the PC picks them all
Apr 4
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Case Western Reserve University wins for most loyal rank list hell yeah
biggest waste of gold signal rip
Mar 23
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It's possible that all CWRU students wanted to stay.
Mar 25
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anyone have thoughts/insight about cleveland clinic?
yes! I'm a "home" student and former rotator - super formal vibes at Cleveland Clinic. Residents felt that the new PD was a drastic change from the old one who was a gem and well loved. Residents were looking forward to leaving because they felt the chill vibes have gone away and new admin are more stricter about things including attending conferences, scoring on derm exams, more scut work etc. Will probably be ranking the other programs in Cleveland higher just because the residents seemed unhappy with the changes to the program. Residents needed to manage the attending inbox which they said was a huge negative. Plus even tho there are in-house fellowships, there is no preference given for in-house residents for Mohs... Feels like there's more negatives here + it felt like the residents didn't have a voice
Feb 21
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why are you putting quotes around "home"? Isn't case western a home program?
Feb 21
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technically but not officially, CCF has their own med students at CCLCM
Feb 21
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Ah, so case western is "home" that's why there's quotes I see >haha yeah its confusing for ppl not familiar with the cleveland med programs
Feb 21
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UH>CCF>Metro
Feb 21
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I thought the residents were happier at Metro over CCF, I think research/ranking wise CCF defintely wins over Metro but for vibes and well-being I think Metro is better! personally doing UH>Metro>CCF>Metros just tough because its work distributed amongst 2-3 residents vs UH is 6 residents.
Feb 21
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idk why this got deleted but just reiterating that the PD/APD at UH come off super inexperienced as well
Feb 21
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rotated here and felt that way
Feb 21
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heard this from a current resident
Feb 21
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you guys should probably add this to Fame & Shame if people are deleting
Feb 21
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tea
Feb 21
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I thought the residents were happier at Metro over CCF, I think research/ranking wise CCF defintely wins over Metro but for vibes and well-being I think Metro is better! personally doing UH>Metro>CCF>Metros just tough because its work distributed amongst 2-3 residents vs UH is 6 residents.
Mar 7
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idk why this got deleted but just reiterating that the PD/APD at UH come off super inexperienced as well
Mar 7
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rotated here and felt that way
Mar 7
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heard this from a current resident
Mar 7
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you guys should probably add this to Fame & Shame if people are deleting
Mar 7
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did CCF not interview a lot of home students? i feel like there weren't that many on the social last night
lol how would you know that based on the breakout rooms?>CCF does not interview a lot of homes. Mostly CCLCMs and CWRU that rotates there
Feb 21
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Did CWRU UH send out an interview itinerary or anything?
wondering this also
Feb 21
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also wondering i didn't get anything!
Feb 21
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got an email!
Feb 21
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did case western say what time we can schedule tomorrow? can't find it
same, no clue but just gonna be waiting for their email i guess
Feb 21
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I set a 9am alarm idk why
Feb 21
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I have a school opening at 6am tomorrow (EVMS) so just be careful and on the lookout!
Feb 21
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I woke up late and they still haven't sent! also waiting
Feb 21
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has anyone gotten an email for UH ?? i havent yet, its also not on my thalamus. Still nothing (12 EST)
Feb 21
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I have a school opening at 6am tomorrow (EVMS) so just be careful and on the lookout!
Mar 7
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I woke up late and they still haven't sent! also waiting
Mar 7
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anyone knows if cwru has one or two release dates???
did you see something that would suggest two?
Feb 21
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Case Western is out
Idk if that's true, if you go on their site, they had interns who did not match at Emory but were TY interns
Feb 21
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people still hearing from cwru ?
I believe they had two release times last year?
Feb 21
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was it thalamus
Feb 21
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standard email that said thalamus would come Wednesday
Feb 21
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standard email that said thalamus would come Wednesday
Mar 7
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Case Western released
UH or MetroHealth?
Feb 21
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metro
Feb 21
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that aint case western
Feb 21
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technically it is, CWRU is associated with two programs
Feb 21
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UH is more competitive tho right
Feb 21
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yes
Feb 21
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did anyone get an email from metro health or just a thalamus notification
Feb 21
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that aint case western
Mar 7
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technically it is, CWRU is associated with two programs
Mar 7
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UH is more competitive tho right
Mar 7
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yes
Mar 7
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Any RY fellowships that basically guarantee match? Pls don't say Sinai because I go there and they don't guarantee
I thought they do for MD RY fellowships?
Feb 21
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UTHouston does
Feb 21
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which PI at UT Houston?
Feb 21
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Dr. Adelaide A. Hebert
Feb 21
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Dell in Texas has matched their fellow every year for the past several years
Feb 21
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Hebert doesn't know if she will have one and Dell lost funding for this upcoming year for their RY> UH case
Feb 21
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northwell Garg it looks like
Feb 21
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UH CASE DOES NOT GUARANTEE (HORRIBLE REP OF NOT MATCHING FELLOW PRE DOC AND POST DOC)
Feb 21
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