What applicants said about NYU Grossman School Of Medicine-NY in the 2020 cycle

< where is it?, oh you're basing this off of the schools that the matched applicants are from

Yeah prolly wouldn't say it's a great list just because they're coming from top schools, though I'm sure they were all great applicants and good fits for NYU. I suppose the fact that people make that assumption though is why home program prestige seems to matter.<<yea school rank 100% percent matters in derm sadly. thats why i tell all premeds that wanna do compeittive specialties to go to the higher ranked school

Congrats NYU! x2

FM -> Derm Cosmetics Fellowship -> dont have to deal with the rest of derm bullshit and just make a ton of money << what kind of derm cosmo fellowship can non-derm people do?? < NYU, UCLA, Miami

<<Such a gunner move "hurr just don't go into derm, another spot for me". TBH you can be a chiropractor and open up a cosmetics program.

There are peds trained people who I have seen now have cosmetic only practices and surgeons (not plastics) who also have cosmetics only practices.

I am all for whatever it takes to get the cosmetics people out of our field <I don't want to do cosmetics, but I rather someone in derm do it who actually trains some in this stuff rather than FM/IM/PEDS/Neurology (went to a neuro clinic that started doing cosmetic botox as well as migraine botox) etc.

additional edits: loyola has 3 spots, U of C has 4, SIU has 2, MCW has 5

SIU has 3 as of last year

PD at Loyola said there's 4 spots this year

Absolutely. While reviewing applications, the residents and faculty note applicants they WANT to interview and then there are the so so applicants they still give the interview just in case/ curtosey/ etc. During the interview, I find it obvious the way the residents and such interact with the stellars that looked great on paper during the interview. As long as they aren't straight weirddo, I assume they will be ranking them highly. There is always that rare case of someone that is a weirdo and will drop down that list if that are just plain weird or doesnt seem like a fit

<Like the way residents interact with them during the downtime? That seems unlikely.

Very unlikely. Most residents don't know your application. If they are an interviewing resident, they probably have a limited application and don't know your scores.< It variues by program (some were blinded, others had scores/stats in front of them). However, at most programs there is no official rank list pre-interview that interviewers know about since they don't all meet together to make this list. They may each have their individual rank list generally based on their own interests and how it overlaps with the applicants they read about to prepare for the interviews but honestly there were plenty of interviewers who knew very little about me at both top and mid tier programs. Also, a lot of programs use a scoring system during interviews which is what makes their initial rank list which serves as a starting point during the rank meetings

< thought columbia was 5? <yes my mistake it's 5!

I can confirm a few residents and faculty that interviewed me were aware of my scores

<< thanks, will update

Stanford, Yale, MCW

MCW wasn't an RTM call based on what was written 9-10 rows below here << do we think yale actually did?

A few programs have. It really doesn't matter though - rank in order of which programs you want to attend.

I agree it shouldn't change ranking but I do think it's reasonable to want to know which have sent them

NYU

I'd like to give a nod to the University of Missouri for the pizza at lunch. Bahn Mi pizza was delicious

Henry Ford for the best snacks. Dried fruit, chocolate covered (dont remember what), and Rx bars

tx

Miami. That Cuban food was so good

I love this town, the people, the food - pork sandwiches - my favorite ... but tonight I'm hungry for something different

UCSFx2 gotta love that sushi and ice cream sandwich combo

Kaiser lunch had bomb build your own bibimbap

TX A&M had chick fil a sandwiches so them for sure

Yale "foods of New Haven" was bomb x 2

The Mexican food at Stanford + the mediterranean food at stanford

Dartmouth pre-fixe farm to table dinner the night before

stop making shit green

< LOL WTF. I am sure a lot of people are. Manhatten. Top 5 program. /endthread

Manhattan ** isn't that great, as someone who's lived there. Disagree that it isn't safe tho, or any less safe than any other city program.

lol this forum is absolute crap. Gunners trying to disuade other gunners from ranking top programs due to "fit" wtf

Well NYU sent out RTM calls soo if you didn't get one, sorry buddy

< uh is this real?

Can't verify the authenticity of the post but I matched to NYU last year with 0 post-interview communication.

<Lol this is just more evidence NYU is being ranked #1 by lots of people, gunners gunna gun

lol, I think NYU has gotten the most hate of any program this year< i didnt read a lot of hate here?? what are you talking about

after interviewing at a nyc program and seeing how ridiculous the COL is, im not interested in living like a rat even if it's in nyc or whatever the training will be like or the rep

Thank you <3 this is helpful. I recently made the decision to do similarly and I've been feeling conflicted. < could you elaborate a bit on what part of Harvard or Northwestern you didn't jive with? Facing the same (happy) problem right now.

everyone gunning for MGH and posting "i ranked it last" to convince others to do the same. only way to game the system, kudos.

<it's derm, you can do anything you want with training at most places. Go with what makes you and your SO happy x2

Current PGY-1. Ranked places closer to family ahead of top tier programs because ultimatelymy SO and I decided that we would be happier at those programs and they would be more supportive of any career path. Make your ranklist however YOU want to and dont let people on a spreadsheet, Doximity rankings, prestige, etc tell you how to rank places. WWYD really doesnt matter because everyone and every situation is different

i really want to believe in the positivity of these messages but the cynic in me says it's just applicants fucking other applicants over.

OP: really not my intention. I just want to admit that I personally struggled and it feels WEIRD to look at these top programs lower on my list but it works for me and just wanted to put it out there because I know a lot of people are struggling with the same thought process.

also posted about this and definitely not trying to screw anyone over. I wanna be close to family

Also, on the flip side, I would argue that if name/prestige DOES matter to you, then rank it that way! This makes it seem like it's black and white, that you're sacrificing something to rank the top programs higher. But sometimes there's a reason why top programs are top!

Please don't rank NYU, thats my top.. kthxbi

Who actually considers northwestern top 5 is my question

PGY1 (for 2019-2020) is $68k GME wide so I assume a bit higher than that

https://med.nyu.edu/pediatrics/residency/program-overview/salary-information

best program in the country, hands down. Should replace NYU in the top 5 tbh

Good joke! Columbia is the worst program in Manhattan. They have a lot of work to do. Medicare/Medicaid patient population exclusively. <NYMC is worse

I agree that they are top notch, probably not replacing NYU, but absolutely on par with

absolutely NOT on par with

NYU>>>>>>>Columbia.. some people just can't get over the "ivy league" attached to columbia, but NYU is a far more prestigious program

What makes columbia lower in quality of a program? Is the malignancy thing true (q for internals/rotators)

<The Stanford and Harvard posts were lies

I got Harvard and NYU RTM calls x 4 <lol

pretty sure NYU said specifically that they would not be contacting us

They just said that to the scrubs

so you mean when the PD said that to the entire interview day, she decided we were all scrubs? lmao

stanford << disagree. Residents talked more with each other than with applicants during the resident dinner lol -- just goes to show how tight knit and happy of a group they are. (or how little they actually see of each other)

I thought the people at Harvard were fantastic x2.

The Harvard residents are super shady. They have secret hang-outs but dont invite the residents that arent "cool" enough. Serious mean girls shit. Lol. Very clique-y.

Wait where did you hear this? FAKE NEWSSSSS << I didn't "hear" it. I experienced it. If you don't believe me, go confront one of the "popular" residents about it.

LOL love how in the cell to the left Stanford residents are called tight knit and happy for sticking together and Harvard residents are called cliquey

If you feel "left out" by the residency class, maybe you're the weird one

harsh lol

Penn > UCSF > Stanford = Harvard >> all others . (x2 though I did not go to one of these, I have the same order for the other 3, but it varies alot with who you happened to talk to) ^sounds like someone's desperate to go to Harvard/UCSF/Stanford : )

haha I agree with this order, and I am ranking Penn 1. If people are actually trying to alter ranks by these orders, that is kinda sad....if it works that's even more sad lol

UCSF and Penn were my favorites x5 <- damn lol, you guys are very lucky to have interviewed at both

didn't interview at UCSF, but had the other 4 "top 5" programs and agree Penn residents seem closest. I would put NYU up there as well

utsw residents were chill! did not expect that x2

very pleasant surprise. The program moved up on my list based on the people there which I was not expecting

Hopkins residents were so fun and nice! x3

who gives a shit x4

<- i feel like a lot is based on history no? I know at NYU they trained some of the trailblazers in derm (like way way back) and it was also big during the AIDS epidemic -- That's good to know. Tbh, I actually don't know much of anything about derm history, and wasn't aware. So do you think they got their reputation mostly based on years of continuous contributions to the field?

NYU is the top creme de la creme program.

i would cream myself to match any of the top 5 x2 <My mentors have mentioned slightly different lists to me that they consider the top programs (though 3-4 of those always make the list), so it is all subjective. <<< Thanks for the input, good to know that they may not be as static as they seem

< would love to hear your mentors lists

Tufts, Harvard, BU, UCLA, UCSF

LOL <why are 3/5 in Boston? That just doesn't sound right to me.

Penn, NYU, Harvard, UCSF, Stanford (geography/city playing a role, but hoping for Penn) . <<tbh glad I do not have all of these. It would be too hard to choose

in terms of what? clinical vs research vs ... they are very different programs

In terms of whatever matters to you.

Clinically: UCSF, Penn>Harvard>Stanford>NYU

< really? I feel like clinically NYU would be the strongest by far because you're spending 2/3 of your entire residency at the VA+county/public hospital = lots of autonomy. << LOL that person has no idea what they're talking about. Clinically, it's UCSF > NYU > Harvard > Stanford > Penn. Overall reputation is Harvard > Stanford > Penn > UCSF > NYU << lol at these absurd rankings, true delusion

I've heard it's UCSF > Harvard > Stanford > NYU > Penn

Its almost as if the top 5 is interchangable and it really comes down to personal preferences and biases

haha so true x3

Look at last year’s rank sheet. Penn was most popular #1 rank then Stanford out of the top 5.

because everyone definitely writes their ranking and is definitely honest about it too

lol'ed at that gullible person

< there is literally no benefit to faking what you are ranking 1 because that only would dissuade people from also listing that one, which ends up in them possibly ranking where you actually want to go as 1. Also, it's anonymous. It's not each person's specific rank, but a tally of how many people are rankin each program a certain number on their list so there is very little benefit to lying. There is usually a 1/5 yield, so it's actually a good amount of people of the interviewees.

< https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16WyBDd4BhLhqR5F5BWMLRAKtq_Na3d9DHyokLtUg0rA/edit#gid=596104293