Are RTM calls still possible this week? Did Brown and Henry Ford call? I think they both did last year
What applicants said about Brown Univ/Rhode Island Hosp in the 2020 cycle
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Applicant sentiment — from 36 anonymous posts, 2019-2020 Derm
5.0 / 10
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Anyone else having trouble ranking Utah? It's a great program, lots of resources, amazing faculty... but Salt Lake. // Salt Lake City is actually a highly desirable place to live. I know a LOT of people that want to live there, and it's competitive to get jobs out there. // it depends on what you want. The downtown is meh compared to most cities. Also the <1% African American population is not exactly ideal for training / learning SoC // best place in the US for the great outdoors -- You'll be a competent dermatologist anywhere you go regardless of the demographics, people just like to act like unless you see 50% skin of color, you won't be able to treat these patints and that's just not true. Utah graduates do great work including for patients of color and to suggest otherwise is absurd<< I asked the PD about this at my interview and he agreed that it was a weakness. He also said it's ok because they're trying to train dermatologists who practice in the mountain west, and Utah/SLC resembles the region demographically - Also while Utah as a whole is not diverse, Salt Lake City actually is
bruh, SLC is one of the most desirable locations in the US. It's kind of like Austin/Nashville/Denver where it hasn't always been a hot spot like Boston/San Fran/NYC, but young people have been flocking there in recent years. TBH though, SLC is still not a great place to live if you are a minority. And don't be fooled by how "progressive" it is. It's smack in the middle of mormon country. Great skiing though. anyone know how progressive SLC is? what is a desirable city for certain demographics may not be as welcoming for others <-- There is actually a pretty strong LGBT community in SLC.
Utah is amazing!
Utah is terrible. It would be foolish to rank it. Also why are we wasting time talking about non-top 5 programs? --- Utah is solid top ~10-15 program which is still very good even if it's not Harvard. Also Utah is okay, but Salt Lake City is incredible
you're really sabotaging my misinformation about Utah campaign << Sorry my bad :(
Did an away and grew up in SLC: If you like the outdoors, then it is a great place to train. People are generally nice. Relatively low crime. Not very much diversity if that is something important to you. Interestingly, one of the largest dermatology faculties in the nation, yet probably the least diverse. You might argue that this is reflective of the population of Utah, but other specialties at the U are WAY more diverse than derm. Some of this could be blamed on lack of diversity in derm as a whole and difficulty recruiting minorities to Utah, but come on... Not a single brown or black person on faculty of 40-50. Pretty shameful. << this. not having a brown or black person as a faculty in derm is not uncommon even in diverse/big programs... <examples?
utah is amazing!! my favorite state!
Does brown do RTM calls? (anyone?)
Yes they did this year. Doesnt seem like they have this year, the prior cycle document seems to say they did some calls in 2016 but nothing since then? Thank you !
Because I promised my momma I wouldn't go on any more interviews, I will not be going to Roger Williams Medical Center! Here goes a trickle folks! Best of luck (1 day, January 17)
<thanks! Fingers crossed as I have yet to receive a trickle and would love this one!
2 trickles coming to lucky souls out there (Brown and UConn). Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays!
Thank you!!! Is it an AM UConn session?
PM
I can't say much for Brown or Providence to provide a point of comparison, but for Dartmouth, you want to consider whether you can handle New Hampshire and snow for 3 years (for the record, I absolutely adore rural New England but understand that many don't feel similarly). You're really the only academic game in town for ~100 miles (UVM is 97 miles away) with 1-2 other residents, so you will get lots of cases and exposure, but not as much skin of color training as you'd receive in an urban program. For either, the Ivy name is really a non-factor at this point of our training, so don't let those factors beguile you. From what I can see, though, I see there's usually one person (in a historical class size of 2) matching into dermpath/Mohs, so take that as you will, and looks like people have gone off to be faculty members at some great academic programs. Residents seem pretty set for whatever they want to be doing.
Please everyone remember to take "malignancy" as reported on this anonymous spreadsheet for what it really is. You don't know who is calling a program malignant or for what reasons. Unless it is a clear pattern of malignancy (for example U-Michigan a few years back as reported on SDN (which has now corrected itself)) you shouldn't give it much value at all. If a program (especially a top 20) was actually malignant, it would be abundantly clear on the interview day as it's not something that can be hidden. So, I guess my hope is that you trust your impression after your interview day and having met most of the faculty and residents, over anonymous posts on this spreadsheet. Even if someone doesn't like the feel of a certain program, that doesn't make them malignant, and neither do 7 am lectures. So please, stop spewing accusations of malignancy, and more importantly remember to consider the source. Don't let random people convince you to rank a program lower.
<people arguing about which tip top programs are malignant and why, while I'm sitting here with my non-top programs unable to relate at all haha...ha x3
if the program's residents can't or won't say any negatives about the program, that is an instant red flag for me. -- Agreed x2
I interviewed at place where the residents had these pitiful smiles when telling us about their typical day. Then they asked me about work life at other programs, which really made them sad...
Exactly!!! These are signs that the residents aren't happy.
Roger Williams Interview x4
Does anyone know anything about this program? x2 <<<Rotator? Ties? <external, no ties x1
Is 1/17 the only interview date?? x2 (wondering same thing...) << they only had 1 date last year per old spreadsheet
Have all the trickles from brown been for 1/10?
yes
very unlikley to get trickles the other date since many people want to switch to that one since it does not have conflicts so they have waitlists / swaps for that date. There will probably be more trickles for 1/10 though at Brown and other programs.
would anyone be able to switch their Brown 1/18 for my 1/10 interview date? if so, please let me know @ 2020dermswap@gmail.com - thank you in advance!
Brown Trickle x3 <-- not OP but got brown trickle for 1/10 (think 1/16 might not be available anymore)
Congrats!<good person <Thought's on the program, strengths/weaknesses??? I had a brown trickle this morning too ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
LMFAO I cannot
I'm thinking that trickles will come through early/mid jan, given that most give 2 weeks notice << am i literally the only one recieving no trickles, only rejections?
me too :( no trickle gang rise up x3
< I got a trickle and wlll also be dropping some on Monday to send a few more trickles out b <- was your trickle for 1/10 also? <yes
What programs are left?
Florida St, Roger Williams, University Hospitals, MetroHealth/Case Western, Puerto Rico, rutgers --- Is CaseWestern for MD Still open???
KCUMB Mesa, Larkin-Hialeah, Beaumonth Health (Trenton), Still OPTI (Kirksville), Riverside (Ohio Health)
rutgers already sent out invites and rejections.
What is University Hospitals?
Case Western
Brown vs Dartmouth? (would also love a breakdown of football teams as provided for Missouri vs Florida)
As an Ivy League graduate, forgeddaboud our sports leagues. You just cannot compare the big schools to us.
totally kidding about the football, mostly just wondering about the programs if you have any insight
I can't say much for Brown or Providence to provide a point of comparison, but for Dartmouth, you want to consider whether you can handle New Hampshire and snow for 3 years (for the record, I absolutely adore rural New England but understand that many don't feel similarly). You're really the only academic game in town for ~100 miles (UVM is 97 miles away) with 1-2 other residents, so you will get lots of cases and exposure, but not as much skin of color training as you'd receive in an urban program. For either, the Ivy name is really a non-factor at this point of our training, so don't let those factors beguile you. From what I can see, though, I see there's usually one person (in a historical class size of 2) matching into dermpath/Mohs, so take that as you will, and looks like people have gone off to be faculty members at some great academic programs. Residents seem pretty set for whatever they want to be doing.
Brown x3, external no ties, x1 external limited ties
<individualized or group?X2
not personalized x2
<any away rotators not get an invite?< yes
Predications for this week? Maybe UCLA, Brown?
arent those the only two left? what about casewestern?
there's a lot left (loma linda, case western, einstein, brown ucla, fsu, temple, baylor in dallas, etc.)
I have about 10 places I applied to that have not sent invites/external invites...and I did not apply everywhere x2 <just look at the interview invites spreadsheet to see who's left
has baylor come out? (it seems that baylor houston already did)
baylor houston came out for internals only so far (pls correct this if I'm wrong)
Brown and UCLA are so overdue! On a sad related note, the Derm invite season seems about done...
<If you are low on numbers, keep hope for trickles. Might not happen, but I know people who have gotten them this week. << hang in there, I have 5-7 trickles opening up next week, January is brutal for conflicts
I haven’t gotten any trickles but I have gotten 3 interviews this week so yea, it’s winding down but not over
< you have more trickles than i actually have interviews. mazel tov
Hang in there, January is so crowded and people have to cancel soon. I hope they go your way, and wish you the best
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Brown did RTM calls