whaaaa? How could they really glean anything from a phone call? Pick up every call with the best most polite kind and empathetic voice ever |They are probably looking to see if you post about them on this spreadsheet.
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Do any applicants from previous years know what topics are discussed during this phone call? Apparently we don't need to prepare for it...
Mar 23
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Are people just replying through ERAS (there was no email provided)?
Mar 23
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that’s what I did
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Did anyone who applied to Utah NOT get the email to schedule a phone call?
This was expected as we had to schedule them weeks ago...
Mar 23
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that call was awful. i sounded like a gibbering idiot. I was incredibly nervous and prelim interviews have been very chill so wasn't prepared for on the spot questions. no way i am getting an actual invite.
Mar 23
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I know, I should have been more clear. Mine is scheduled for later today. I was curious if others have had theirs yet?
Mar 23
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um don't want to say what Qs were cause dont want to get in trouble. it wasn't bad. im just someone that gets incredibly nervous and has a shaky voice etc. thats what made it bad. i just sounded like shit.
Mar 23
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How long was the phone call?
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I really don't think anyone would care if you said what 1 or 2 questions were. I don't even have a call myself, just curious why it seems to have been so stressful.
Mar 23
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5-10 minutes, mostly selling you on the program and seeing if you're actually interested in them. I think it was stressful (for me, not OP) because it's harder to read someone over the phone vs. in-person where it's easier to tell if someone likes what you're saying.
Mar 23
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idk i didnt have a chance to express interest in the program because i was so flustered. i didnt get the sense that was what they wanted. sounded like they just wanted to see if they liked me
Mar 23
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What kinds of stuff did Utah ask you? (just curious, didn't get a call myself) x3
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Utah OFFICIAL invite via email. Phone call earlier today!
For those who got a Utah Phone call today, did you all get either an invite, waitlist, or rejection?
Mar 23
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Got a call today, was not emailed after :( |I got phone call. No invite. Yet.
Mar 23
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What time did you hear back from Utah (MST)?
Mar 23
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I was hoping for Utah, can someone explain the deal with the phone call/invites? I feel pretty out of the loop. If we are not a part of this, we shouldnt expect an invite at this point, right?
Mar 23
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Yes
Mar 23
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yeah. come on. get real. you've been out of the running for quite some time now.
Mar 23
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I emailed Utah a LOI and they said they are still working on sending out invites, so maybe not out of running yet?
Mar 23
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if you didn't get a phone call by this point, you can assume it's a silent rejection.
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They asked me actual tough questions, which I was totally not expecting.
Got a call on Monday, no kidding, it was like a phone call from hell
Mar 23
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Any idea what to expect for Utah phone call? Do they ask tough Qs or just trying to gauge if you want to be in salt lake?
Mar 23
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Why dont you just wait til your phone call?
Mar 23
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see ! I'm not the only person who thought it was super tough. it was definitely an awful call. like i wasn't expecting it to be like that which was half the problem.
Mar 23
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My questions were "Why dermatology" and an ethical scenario
Mar 23
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It was a mini-interview, with the same sort of questions one should expect from any other dermatology interview.
Mar 23
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those questions aren't bad. mine were worse left field. screw mmi. i prefer conversational interviews.
Mar 23
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I also had the why dermatology and ethics questions
Mar 23
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They pimped on the the history of Utah. WTF
Mar 23
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Hey. Can you guys share the number that Utah used to call you? Thanks!
Mar 23
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how important do you guys think ck is? scheduled to take it in a few days and my practice tests scores have gone progressively down from 250+ last week. should i delay or just take it? taken the nbmes/ UWSA
From what I have been told research shows that delaying the test only reduces your score. No one is going to change you on the rank list if you have 245 vs 255 on Step 2. They are going to go off if they liked you in the interview.
Mar 23
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I would delay it. I have mine scheduled for December but I will be postponing until after ranking. Only select derm programs care for it (UCSF, Cleveland, Stony Brook), so if you are not interviewing there, it won't matter. Also, I have cleared it with multiple TYs/prelims that no score by ranking is totally fine.
Mar 23
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hmm not sure about this. Many program websites say Step 2 is required for rank
Mar 23
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ive explicitly been told ck scores MUST be in before rank list by multiple people. you may want to check that. i am interviewing at stony brook actually :/ really hope they don't care tons.
Mar 23
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What multiple people or what websites have you heard from/read that say Step 2 is required for rank? I personally checked 70+ program websites and only saw UCSF and Cleveland (did not apply to Stony Book). I have also asked multiple derm PDs/PCs if they require Step 2 for rank and they say no, and same with my top 4 TYs. I personally think your time is better spent banging out an extra 3-4 papers in the month you would otherwise spend studying.
Mar 23
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"Bang out 3-4 papers in the month you would've spent studying"... yeah because that's how research works x3
Mar 23
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I never said research; I am talking about reviews, case reports, and letters. These can supplement real research projects that you probably already have ongoing.
Mar 23
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Anyone know if Utah requires CK to rank?
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Can people who got Utah interview help by filling in the interviews tab please?
Did anyone who had a phone call today (Tues) get an invite?
Mar 23
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no invite here x3
Mar 23
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geez. someone here is really obsessed with Utah
Mar 23
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External non-rotator here. Got an invite yesterday (11/27) via non-ERAS email x2
Mar 23
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WHAT DAYS ARE THEY INTERVIEWING?
Mar 23
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Anyone get an invite without a phone call?
Mar 23
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Utah internal here. They do their first-round screening based on all the applications. Then they use the phone calls as a second-round screen and email out invitations for interviews
Mar 23
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To clarify, last year, they emailed out supplemental essays for the first-round screen but decided to go with preliminary phone interviews this year
Mar 23
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Does anyone know if it would be cool to call Utah ourselves? Anyone willing to share their number?
There's no way that turns out well. Also I'm probably paranoid but this reeks of a sting operation
Mar 23
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Can you explain what you mean? I have family that lives in Utah and I already sent them an LOI but haven't received an invite yet. The worst that could happen is that they don't give me an interview, right?
Mar 23
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No, the worst that could happen is that they get annoyed with you and tell other programs about you. PDs talk to each other all the time, and they talk about specific applicants. You've already sent them an LOI explaining everything, they know you really want to go there. You either get an interview or you don't. Chill out, there's nothing you can do at this point
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Why hasnt anyone filled out the Utah interview info?| inetrview dates Jan 25 and Jan 26- conflicts with OHSU big time
whaaaa? How could they really glean anything from a phone call? Pick up every call with the best most polite kind and empathetic voice ever |They are probably looking to see if you post about them on this spreadsheet.