U Texas Med Sch-Houston

<< outing derm program nepotism, for example, students who match at a parent's place of employment, is arguably an important step moving forward to discourage future foul play. thank you to all brave whistleblowers! <Yeah, the tier list is pointless. No need to give it any thought. While it is pointless, I really like there is an explanation why we should move those 3 programs down... TBH the explanation was pretty good haha << There is also a lot of bias since it is easier to try to move programs like Hopkins or Vandy higher on the list since those names have a better brand name... tier list is so silly in a field like derm where the vast majority of us are going to be in private practice. At which point 99% of patients don't give a shit where you did residency. << haha, someone deleted a comment about Harvard nepotism

#REF!

<<I have no issue with nepotism. If I have kids who want derm residency, I will definitely make phone calls and cash in favors. That’s how the world works. FWIW I’m a derm resident who matched without nepotism.

just because something DOES happen doesn't mean something SHOULD happen. yes, that's "the way the world works" but is arguably NOT the way the world should work.

<nah, it's just more talk about UTSW, looking for a more complete discussion

<UTSW, UT Houston, Baylor Houston, UT san antonio, texas a n m, texas tech, dallas baylor <thanks!

<Austin???

< why are there so many Baylors but they're not event the same institution...

UTSW >>>> UT Houston > Baylor >>>> UTHSCSA = Texas A&M > Tech > Dallas. Austin's too new to say but I figure it'll end up similar to UT Houston.

< Do you think courtesy interview applicants have an equal chance as everyone else?

It really depends on you and whether your scores and apps are comparable to the non-courtesy interview candidates.<<this suggests that interiews arent the end all be all in ranking then? because presumably even if you have a couresy interview, you still have an interview, and would be on the same playing field as everyone else --- NO, true courtesy interviews do not have an equal chance. Courtesy interviews are for when a program hates a rotator or home student, but rather than outright reject them, they interview them anyways, with no intention to rank or with the intention of putting them dead last. It is just a way to avoid drama and hurt feelings, rather than cause drama. The definition of a true courtesy interview is an interview granted to assuage feelings without actually giving the interviewee serious consideration. Anything else is a real interview and not a courtesy interview. <- What about if a mentor reached out to a program and you received an interview? It's not a technical courtesy invite, but you don't know if you would have gotten it otherwise

how the heck would someone even know if they were a courtesy invite?

OP poster here about courtesy interviews. I guess I was using that term loosely to include away rotators since some aways interview all candidates...but can't answer that question << there's almost no way to know if you're a courtesy interview unless you know you didn't perform well on the away rotation. its exactly what you said, most likely behind-the-scenes you'll be taken off the list but they can say they interview all away rotators. the moral of the story, as in every interview, is everyone lies all the time. Agree with what wa ssaid above that unfortunately you'll never know if you were a courtesy interview or not, so not matter what don't sweat it.

<- good example is UTH. They interview all rotators in the rotation, but in their current class only 1 of the residents was a rotator (the rest were external). They sometimes have up to 10 rotators in a month, so if you do the math, they should have > half of their residents from rotators, but this is not the case << im going to play a lot of devils advocate here. it is possible - NOT PROBABLE, but POSSIBLE - that the away rotators ranked them a bit lower on their own list and matched higher, so the rotators list and UTH list did not match up, and the effect is what you're seeing. but yes i agree it was most likely courtesy interviews so UTH could say that they interview all rotators, and appear attractive to new applicants selecting away rotations. for every story about a program burning an applicant, there is a story about an applicant burning a program. i think it's the derm law of ranking or whatever other clever name it should be called. --> True!

->does UTH stand for Utah? -> hoping it stands for UT Houston, but not sure > yes UT Houston is UTH. abbreviating Utah by one letter would be not kewl

Yes, I talked to someone who was going to Houston to interview. It was 2 weeks ago.

Thank you!

They interview people on the rotation itself and MANY people rotate at Houston. Do not know for sure but I bet they could fill just based on the number of rotators, as this was a great rotation!