Johns Hopkins Hosp-MD

stanford << disagree. Residents talked more with each other than with applicants during the resident dinner lol -- just goes to show how tight knit and happy of a group they are. (or how little they actually see of each other)

I thought the people at Harvard were fantastic x2.

The Harvard residents are super shady. They have secret hang-outs but dont invite the residents that arent "cool" enough. Serious mean girls shit. Lol. Very clique-y.

Wait where did you hear this? FAKE NEWSSSSS << I didn't "hear" it. I experienced it. If you don't believe me, go confront one of the "popular" residents about it.

LOL love how in the cell to the left Stanford residents are called tight knit and happy for sticking together and Harvard residents are called cliquey

If you feel "left out" by the residency class, maybe you're the weird one

harsh lol

Penn > UCSF > Stanford = Harvard >> all others . (x2 though I did not go to one of these, I have the same order for the other 3, but it varies alot with who you happened to talk to) ^sounds like someone's desperate to go to Harvard/UCSF/Stanford : )

haha I agree with this order, and I am ranking Penn 1. If people are actually trying to alter ranks by these orders, that is kinda sad....if it works that's even more sad lol

UCSF and Penn were my favorites x5 <- damn lol, you guys are very lucky to have interviewed at both

didn't interview at UCSF, but had the other 4 "top 5" programs and agree Penn residents seem closest. I would put NYU up there as well

utsw residents were chill! did not expect that x2

very pleasant surprise. The program moved up on my list based on the people there which I was not expecting

Hopkins residents were so fun and nice! x3

definitely not, you'll be interviewing right up until 4:30 (there is a full schedule until 430, so the only way you'd finish any earlier is if you happen to have a break in the last slot and you'll be done around 4:15)

yes. they still match really really well.

I think they match very well for Mohs despite not having a fellowship themselves x2

how do you know this?

in an earlier post someone mentioned that stanford had a 100% mohs match rate, so I'm going off that and the fact that it's stanford

ok, but where did that person get his/her info? I doubt any program (even Stanford) is 100%

idk

<Does anyone know about Mohs match rate for Hopkins. they don't have a fellowship either

I know they always have people match...but I'm not sure how many have not matched in the past few years which is what matters more

everyone has matched from JHU in the past 5 years

I know of 1 who has not in past 5 years, I think rest have so still good match rate

I will give you my Kidney for Hopkins on 1/8

I'll give you two kidneys.... take it or leave it

I'll give you my horseshoe kidney

i believe you get academic half days every other week on certain rotations? (maybe?)

<N=1 opinion. I think it is a really good and growing/improving program. Pros include patient diversity, nice faculty, lots of specialty clinics, cool Hopkins medical pathology for consults. Talking to residents, shortcomings seemed to be more on procedural/cosmetic side where some mentioned having less exposures (and students got very little exposure too). No mohs fellowship and lots of turnover especially in mohs, but residents mentioned lots of new faculty which could be great if they stay there. They said they get a lot of autonomy in both general clinics and procedural/mohs since there are no fellows. Also, research opportunities seemed variable. Other "upper mid tier" have more established research programs in a variety of areas, but this also seems to be growing at Hopkins. People seemed happy overall though<<to add on that as a rotator, even though they have no mohs fellowship they have matched people into mohs, including last year into great programs. <agree that hopkins is an absolutely AMAZING program in every way. the faculty, research, mentorship, clinical exposure are just phenomenal.

<<Not a Baltimore fan, but Hopkins seems solid << Thanks guys that was some great info! << What are the chances if you are a non-internal, non-researcher? - is it just me or looking at their current residents looks like Hopkins matches a lot of their own med students/researchers

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6th WTF COME ON

skin of color as in red man syndrome?

oh good question! I would like to know too

My guess: Mt. Sinai, Wake, Howard, UCSF, Harvard, U penn, NYU

< you forgot UTAH

NYU??? x2

absolutely NYU << dang one would think that best skin of color training would occur in places with high % skin of color pop (Detroit, Birmingham, Baltimore, etc)

really UTAH?

I think sarcasm

What about Henry Ford, Emory, UNC, NW? Henry Ford PD actually felt the need to reassure us during the interview presentation that they get to see skin cancer at community clinics because the main hospital is so heavily just skin of color

<I rotated at UNC and felt it was very diverse - agreed, very pleasantly surprised

Another vote for Wake Forest! Amy McMichael is an amazing doctor and person!

<- WF faculty seems diverse, but their patient population is still pretty rural and not as diverse

yes, but Dr. McMichael has an interest in SOC so tailors her teaching/clinic to that. She gave a talk to our program a few years ago, hence the fangirling.

Also, Hopkins has a specific initiative to support underrepresented minority faculty and residents.

i think it went out on monday? << for everyone or internals?

seemed like there were externals too Also, it seems Kansas went out? Is 1/16 interview date confirmed?

What are the odds of a Miami trickle?

Not horrible odds since many places like Northwestern, UCSF, Hopkins, and others overlpa with their dates

< I tried to creep and I think last year they had 2 invite dates in december, I'm wondering if that might mean they had those 2 in addition to the internal date in late october, so maybe they would have another date to release invites!!!

the system is trickle, gimme dem invites! but seriously i dont know why schools do this, i guess its their way of filtering out even more candidates...<<i guess but then they miss out on some really great applicants that might have gone there. for example, i literally couldnt choose between two schools on those dates, so i just went with the more convenient flight option. Not because i liked one school more than the other....who knows if i would have been a better fit for the other school

man i feel for you, im not saying its right or anything.

I feel for UConn and Maryland internals/rotators. Only given 1 date << can you imagine if you rotated at both, and then had to pick between invites at JHU, UCSF, Northwestern, UC-Davis, UMiami, Mayo-AZ?<<that was me, i had to pick between ucsf, northwestern, mayo AZ, Davis, and hopkins <goals x3

i would love to have those problems

I hate the overlap especially since I have had to pick even though I only have 5 invites. However, with people going to 15+ or 20+ interviews, I'm glad they do this to force a little trickle. << problem is for some of us we already got rejected from these programs, so even if the spots are now open...it won't be to us :(

As someone with far more rejections than invites, we have to accept that those were not for us.

St. Luke's

Not necessarily. You might have 1 internal fellowship spot but maybe other people from your class are also applying. It's not a guarantee . <It is concerning in the sense that strong progrrams tend to have fellowships for at least peds/path/mohs so missing one of those is a slight red flag since the probably do not have the fellowship for a reason

< thanks. what will be the chances of matching into a fellowship if your home program does not have one?

Mohs/procedural is difficult to match into regardless of if your program has one or not. However, I have heard that connections matter even more here, so not having a fellowship may mean less connections

this is very true although you can still have connections, for example your PD went to residency with Mohs director at another institution. But I agree it is a disadvantage.. just not a huge one.

are you one of the 260/260, 7/7 H, 10 pubs kind of applicants? I feel like programs that think we won't rank them hihgly don't interview us<<not quite 260, but yes to everything else

close enough, that's probably what's happening to you :/<<but maybe i would go there!! --- So it looks like the Top 20 and the bottom 100 programs seem to discriminate against each others top candidates lol<<weird, you would think a great candidate for a top tier program would be a great candidate for any other program too

but with only ~40 interview slots they have to be realistic in interviewing people who they could match. What are the chances a top 10 student with 260s, all honors, and numerous pubs match at a no name program? --- But on the flip side they should know that the 265+ 7/7 AOA 10+ pubs from state schools would absolutely love to attend a top 10 derm program... Interview usssssss pls.

but the problem is there's also ~10 internal candidates they have to interview and then fill the ~30 other slots with people who have connections & people from other top 10 programs with 265+ 7/7 AOA etc etc --- You're so right!!! The truth hurts, but it's something that needed to be said. It's okay though, I'm sure I'll still end up somewhere great!

Now imagine if you have all those stats and are a DO?

can confirm that a state candidate can do well at the top 10 --- Research year??? Also not all state schools are midtier, so I'm specifically asking about midtiers << midtier

what's midtier though? top 40? --- Yeah probably anything 40 or higher is midtier IMO. God tier 1-20, good tier 21-40, midtier 41- all

so midtier is 41 and below? sorry I'm an idiot and don't get this ranking thing<<yea i would say 40-60 range << guys, the medical school is not one of the most important factors

it for sure is, and this is something that has already been discussed ad naseum here << telling you from experience, it is not. just because people talk about it on reddit/anonymous spreadsheet does not make it true <x1 med school tier absolutely is a very important factor<<agreed. having honored all rotations at harvard or hopkins is way more of an impact factor than having honored all rotations at a mid or low tier school. ---- WRONG, many top school give almost everyone honors, my crappy state school gives 10-15% x2 <not true, top tier applicant here and not many people honor everything. I think its safe to say we cant assume about schools unless we actually go there. <most MSPE letters also have grade distributions so programs see which schools do this. << at some top 20 programs, like 30-40% of the class gets AOA, so yes, the grading is easier<<idk what schools these are but my school def does not and I go to a top tier. Lets not make generalizations. << ummmm, I said "at some"<<great, have a cookie. << wait how can 30-40% of the class get AOA? Isn't one of the prerequisites for nomination to AOA being in top 25% of the class?

It is. That person is making crap up and blowing hot air out their asses because they don't go to a top school.

< what's amazing? (anyone sitting at 10+ interviews)

are you a stellar applicant? It could be that you're a good applicant from the region you're in and getting lots of interviews there are and at mid tier derm programs, but not quiteee good enough for a top 10? --- OP here, not regional at all, very diverse group of interviews, just none at big names

realize the big wig programs are SO random in who they interview, and the fact is most of them are going to end up matching internals anyways. You should be proud of how many interviews you have, it's super impressive! ---Thank you kind person! I do feel really good about how things are going, and definitely didn't mean to sound ungrateful. Just curious to see if there were any similar trends going on >> op of next cell, thank you for not being a dick about your >2 interviews

i am at a low-tier state school that did an away at a top 10 w/LOR from faculty at said institution, no invites from ANY place at all. --- I'm sorry man, that really sucks :( x2 << sounds like my life

Top 10 programs are mostly filled from within and from applicats from top 20 medical schools. >>> #truth hurts

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