Northwestern McGaw/NMH/VA-IL

Harvard

USC

Even more important than rotation mills are programs that only take their own research fellows. While rotation mills will still interview and match a percentage of their rotators (with variability between programs), programs that only take their research fellows will rotate and interview many of their rotators, but ultimately offer little to no chance of matching for those outside their fellows.

what programs do this besides sinai

what programs do this besides sinai, Mayo AZ

Rotating, signaling, and interviewing at these programs is a waste of time and is performative; they already know who they plan to take for the upcoming cycle

WashU

very true. Do NOT waste your time at Mayo AZ or Sinai. UConn also (at least this year). CWRU as well is a major rotation mill people need to talk more about

UCONN

Penn

Wake

CWRU

northwestern

i believe in karma

never sacrifice your integrity for the game. bottom line. More people should adopt this mindset.

is this northwestern fellows?

this cycle gave me some peace of mind that justice still exists in the world, but i feel the same way. don't want to wish ill on other people, just want future applicants to value working together instead of against each other.

do you want to live in LA or Chicago

EIther. NW might be a smidge stronger but either is good

look at previous mohs match lists to compare both schools' histories with matching too! always helpful

Only counts if you also separately applied to the advanced derm program. Then you rank both.

I believe it was only the med-derm people that automatically includes the prelim but agree would check with program coordinator!

so if i interviewed for advanced derm at northwestern I can rank/be considered for northwestern IM prelim without a prelim interview? did not apply med derm

Penn State, Northwestern, Yale (kind of), Georgetown, Ohio State, Brown, Cleveland Clinic, UPMC, UTHSC (tennessee), Zucker/Northwell, Emory, Mizzou, WVU, Dartmouth

wait I didn't know about Northwestern, are we sure?

Exact wording: "We are very excited to welcome you to the Northwestern University combined Medicine-Dermatology interviews, which also serves as interviews for either the categorical Medicine and/or advanced Dermatology tracks, if you have applied to either of those Northwestern programs. "

northwestern med derm counts for prelim.

Penn state does??

yes Penn state does, presented to us on interview day

what about northwestern regular Derm/peds derm> NW med derm counts for advanced derm NW position + med derm position. NOT prelim. You can ask to be considered for categorical IM, but that was not guaranteed by just applying.

i think that was from like 2 years ago (i, too, was waiting)

oh... damn... Do you know any tea? Anything???

no:( but there seems to be tea below from that paragraph ripping apart NW but i know nothing personally

Also impressed by Penn, Harvard, Yale, Northwestern

also, I wonder how far the Harvard/Yale name can take someone.

Which schools ARE having second looks? Which ones are for sure NOT having second looks?

Vandy, Jeff, Iowa IS MedStar, Duke, Northwestern are NOT Cleveland Clinic you can message to set one up

did not get northwestern swag

I did not receive mine

I did not received swag (med-derm)

what was it?

an asshole edited it to say I did when that's not what I wrote.

OP haha i switched it back people are irritating for no reason like their parents must be sick of them gd

it was west of north

it was honestly pretty chill with routine behavioral questions. Better culture than expected but agree that the resident/attending relationship seemed very formal

mine was mostly personal questions with a few standard ones, felt very relaxed

Why did you guys think the relationship was formal? I didn't pick up on those vibes.

it was west of north

cheeellll do not worry

How many people are interviewing at NW?

a bunch of snobby researchers who devote little to no time to patient care. Interviewed and rotated with them so I know what I'm talking about. Happy for the interview but I will be ranking them near the bottom. If you want to go to residency to become a researcher who has little clinical skills and must rely on chatGPT for differentials and plans a month before graduating, then this is the place for you.

Did RY, no IV disclaimer. Many of the faculty, especially the young ones, have large unjustified egos. I would argue this translates to resident selection from preferring nearly exclusively elite medical schools (not saying these people aren't qualified). It also translates to some faculty much worse teachers than others and having little autonomy for the typical resident. There's a large emphasis on research. However, all the residents except for 1-2 are very kind, supportive and enthusiastic. Word of advice when it comes to doing a RY here, you need to thoroughly vet your PI and talk with the previous fellows. Not all relationships are created equal and it's almost like 10 different possible experiences under the NU umbrella

Damn! I'm sorry to hear that. I appreciate you sharing your experience.

now that's a roast lol

this has been a consistent sentiment but not as extreme for years

NorthWestsern sucks eggs

Hmm, i did a rotation here and had a different take. Felt like the attendings were really invested in learner growth / very strong clinically in addition to the research strength

also did rotation, agree about the egos and bad vibes very unappealing, tbh even the residents feel a little egotistic but i think it's the environment bc they are so personable in moments