Miami, FL
✅1. One of the best well rounded training programs in the country. You'll work hard but come out really well trained especially in complex med derm. The best academic derms I've met have trained here. Plus it's in Miami lol (could be a con for the price and if you don't like big cities though). Some concerns for toxicity in the past but now have been vastly improved with new leadership who are super supportive of their residents. Residents also really echoed this during interviews. Really great interview day, faculty and residents seem very nice and happy to be living and training there. Away rotations are high yield here (auto IV). While Spanish is helpful, it's not absolutely required especially since its derm, but there is plenty of interpreter help available if needed (especially at the county hospital). PD and chair are amazing and constantly hiring new faculty both nationally and internationally. Many unique and rare specialty clinics. Pretty much every faculty does research. May not be the best program to go if you want a chiller schedule however.
✅2. Despite being one of the largest derm academic programs, their cosmetic training is really solid. Can't say the same for other big academic programs. Really strong surgical exposure too. Will get to manage conditions others only read about.
✅3. Fantastic away rotation experience. They spent a ton of time getting to know me and hear about my goals and how the department could support those goals. Also, extremely hands on rotation.
✅4. I've only heard amazing things from the alumni of this program with regards to culture and training. The chair is awesome. Multiple resident wellness days off each year, good elective time in final year to purse your interests
❌1. A true beacon of toxicity, from the students to the residents to the faculty. Workhorse program and hours. The pay is -not- enough for living reasonably in downtown Miami. The APD takes pride in the amount of inpatient hour and weekend calls this program has as if this is some kind of benefit/as if the majority of you will actually go into academic medicine or complex med-derm. The pro comment mentions "new leadership" but it has been the same 3 (chair, PD, APD) in charge for the last 4 or 5 years that pick favorites. This claim that the rigor will provide excellent training will frankly be disproven if you met any batch of the recently selected cohorts over the last few years. Rank high solely off location, but do not pretend the program is riding off anything but its name and the select faculty that are renowned.
“Agree on the pay to COL comment, but I personally only had great interactions with the faculty and residents so not really sure where your comments coming from. I won't dispute it though because everyone has there own experience, but I think its important for others to form their own opinion on people through in person interactions. Also, I personally found their residents to be incredibly well trained, and have worked with some of their alumni who are also leaders in the field. I think you're right to say they want those who are looking to stay in academia and advance the field, and that's honestly not the majority of derm applicants so its possible this disconnect is where the 'toxicity' is being referred to.”
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RADICAL HONESTY*** Step 1 (3 attempts), Step 2 and 3 first pass; will be finishing with a 3 year post graduate training. What are my chances in matching?
Very low unless you have a strong connection to a program, unfortunately i would assume many programs filter out step 1 failures
0 chance if you failed step 1 three times. I'm sorry. You would need to be one of those guys spending 8 years as a fellow at UMiami to match.
I think 3 attempts on step 1 means there is essentially zero chance. If you failed step 1 once, there might still be a shot. Some programs last year matched people with step 1 fails, but you need to have a crazy strong advocate
Virtually all programs will filter out a step failure
Was offered a 2 week observorship by Dr. Kiken in Miami this september, anyone know if this will be similar to an away/has anyone gotten something like this?
are you referring to UMiami? or a different program in Miami?
umiami, I meant Dr. Kirsner
I think if you have no other true aways lined up at that time, it could still be useful for exposure to the department. But considering Miami only gives like 4 true aways per year that are attached to an interview, an observership probably won't carry as much weight unless your app is exceptionally strong
i'm going to take it for facetime and try and make the most of it
Nice you got this!
What are the best programs for Mohs? Interested in a residency with strong surgical training
NYU
I've heard places with a good track record of matching mohs include univ florida, univ arizona, Mayo, U Miami, UTSW
geisinger and iowa. geisinger has lots of mohs and one of the best mohs matching track rates. Iowa does a lot of mohs as well and has a very strong program
also Cincinnati and they always keep their own residents as fellow
hopkins, there was one year 3-4 ppl matched mohs from one class
the surgical training is pretty bad there though. But good job to that one year!
Is ther a list of programs particulary interested in candidates with basic/translational research?
stanford come to mind
penn
any program that has a special research resident spot or combined med-derm program. Would also look at programs that take a lot of Mh/PhDs
jhu as well
miami, utsw, ucsf, michigan
sinai?
yale
Thoughts on Larkin (both palm springs and south miami)? Below the average for academics for derm so trying to be smart about my list.
Both but especially south miami are regarded as the bottom derm programs but its better than not being matched. They are like the Bama of derm. You went there because you couldnt get in anywhere else.
The pay they give their residents for living in south florida is criminal (>20,000 lower than all other programs with way higher cost of living)
What non-ivory tower / community programs historically take T20 med students without RYs?
what do you mean by non-ivory tower programs... it's derm.
not op, but I strongly dislike this sentiment that some people have. As much as derm is competitive, there ARE ivory programs and non-ivory programs. Harvard, Yale, Penn, UCSF. An example of a non-ivory program: MCW. There will always be stratifications even in the most competitive of things, and these stratifications are always worth keeping in mind when you can only apply to 28 programs
ivory tower is a meaningless label, the earlier you learn that the better off you'll be
ivory tower is a meaningless label, the earlier you learn that the better off you'll be>>> yeah a ton of harvard/penn/ucsf grades end up going into private practice...
umm, yes ivory tower doesn't mean better training, but it is considered prestigious and harder to match. OP isn't asking about ivory tower programs, they're asking about non-ivory programs, so your "the earlier you learn" comment comes off as not helpful and condescending
this whole let's not talk about the T10 things is weird and comes off as gatekeepy. These programs exist and people will still be applying to them. Besides, I agree with the previous commenter, OP is asking about non-ivory tower/community programs. No need to step up on y'all's soapbox
When I rotated at Orange Park they had MD residents from UMiami and UCLA. But I know at least the UMiami grad rotated there and they seem to highly prefer their rotators.
did miami and/or duke match their community engangment spot
yes to Duke> pretty sure Miami has that position filled too.
( on Miami
Random but does anyone have any idea or have heard about how many applications on average programs get for aways? Just curious.
200-400 (some places like emory)
emory had 600+ last year
Why is Emory so hard to get?
Emory and Miami are the two most difficult aways to get bc they are top programs that guarantee an IV (they give very few aways) >👍
what does it take to match T5?
Worry about matching and don't obcess with T5! T5 match seems to be a lot of who you know, though.
anyone know how imgs match into t5 unis, meanwhile so many us applicants are trying to match
they tend to do research years (sometimes multiple) with PIs who have strong pull at their home programs. Of course they have great STEPS and work ethic, but the research years are really what cements a lot of their potential in matching
Yikes, why are we so snarky about IMGs matching. Imagine the goated application they must have had
IMGs will almost exclusively only match derm at a place they've done multiple RYs. This could be a top tier program (e.g. I think Penn, Stanford, Miami have taken some in the past) or not. They very likely grinded very hard and put in some good work and deserve that spot
Y'all who's gonna start the convo re what schools are best to do aways at? :Z open to hearing opinions. Some schools have stopped gauraunteeing IIs to away candidates, others have begun to prioritize internal/away candidates much more... what yall think? :)
Rush interviewed everyone who did an away this year, didn't happen previous years but thought it would be helpful to know! Great program!
theres a tab in the 25-26 sheet about aways that didnt interview rotators
i do not rec OSU, it is an awful away. rude faculty, rude residents. you will be miserable. easy away to get but occupy your time with another school
< echoing this. they interview all rotators but they are an interesting bunch..
I think the top program that guarantees an interview if you do an away is Miami. But they only take 4-8 rotators per year so if you get one you can be pretty well assured they like your app. They usually match 1-2 away rotators also despite having 30+ internals per year. Emory also guarantees an away. As does Tulane. Some texas programs do as well
Texas doesn't seem to match non-Texans often tho
UTSW does occasionally
what is the best program for mohs?
iowa
have heard Miami has a really high Mohs match rate and strong procedural training
I think they have one Mohs spot per year, but yea some years match 3-4 into Mohs
i heard geisinger basically guarnantees home students match there
is there a resource to research different mohs fellowships?
there is no such thing as a "best" program for Mohs
there are several programs that save their Mohs spot for their internals
Research years that guarantee match? How do I find these?
I think cornell is like the only one
Cornell does not match every research fellow
cornell barely matches 1 fellow, if any, per year (correct me if im wrong)
is there a list somewhere?
I don't think anything or anyone can guarantee you a match
pretty much none? imo if an institution matches back a good amount of their RY students I would take that as a positive
larkin palm springs research year with Dr. Skopit guarantees match
i know a cornell fellow who didnt match anywhere
Tulane and UAB are guaranteed
cornell does not match their own fellows very often
larkin south miami research year with Dr. Skopit guarantees match
Cornell does not match every research fellow this is absolutely false about cornell, they are not loyal> larkin south miami research year with Dr. Skopit guarantees match
The Maryland RY seems pretty guaranteed as well, not back to Maryland per say but just derm
MUSC
cornell does not match their own fellows very often>> Larkin South Miami home of the pay2play derm position has an unpaid RY which they will guarantee your acceptance the following year in their wonderful program
did anyone get RTM call from miami?
there was actually alot of useful info that got deleted earlier (not re: miami but overall) and had some insider advice. so like ya'll are cray bc that info could be helpful for reapps
post in new spreadsheet and lock it
most of it got synced to the link above! the medmatchforum thingy
lol did you really set up a cron to pull from gsheets. you had time today i see lol
Someone is crashing out and deleting everything. "Anonymous Moose"
anounymous moose you def need to not be like this .
Can someone spill the tea
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