MedStar Washington Hosp Ctr-DC

Thanks dad!!!

< You know, there is the entirety of the West Coast to consider. We're still in business hours << I don't think it's updated to say we're done, just a running tally (the same row is moved up) << just updated it << 10+ person, can you please press CTRL+Z to not erase the field that was there or use the function to get the past entry back << Thank you for reverting it back to original

Me. NY resident, didn't do med school in NY, but literally did an away rotation with a LOR from a NY school. No NYU, no Columbia. <<Me. Georgetown. Lived in DC for 4 years << Me. From the Midwest no U of M, Iowa, or Wisconsin! <<Feel that one bruh. x5 << Same, also no Arizona or New Mexico #cool . << 18 years in Texas and no TX programs yet (holding on to hope). From Mexico, no offer from New Mexico!

Me. Born in Boston, went to Harvard, no interview from Harvard << Harvard hasn't gone out yet? Do you mean pre-lim? x2. Prelim <<I got harvard prelims with no connections, but did not get my home program's prelim...its pointless to try to make sense of it

Congrats! x3 <Is this the same as Med Star or did I not apply to Georgetown?? <same

<did anyone get offered dates or is 12/6 the only date for interviewing? <- I only got 12/6 x3

Anyone get specific information on the reserved for physician only spot?

< they said categorical spot in my email but I’m a pgy-1.

<Think more will come? just one date seems odd

hoping so!

Me. Born in Boston, went to Harvard, no interview from Harvard << Harvard hasn't gone out yet? Do you mean pre-lim? x2. Prelim <<I got harvard prelims with no connections, but did not get my home program's prelim...its pointless to try to make sense of it

<did anyone get offered dates or is 12/6 the only date for interviewing? <- I only got 12/6 x3

Anyone get specific information on the reserved for physician only spot?

< they said categorical spot in my email but I’m a pgy-1.

<Think more will come? just one date seems odd

hoping so!

I applied to ~15 IM prelims- 1 invite

I applied to 29 IM prelims- 3 invites so far

Applied to 15 have 5 prelim invites but 4/5 are more community programs

For the people struggling to get invites, by any chance did you only apply to prelims that are considered "competitive" for whatever reason or did you mix it up and include community programs as well? I did not apply to community programs, all academic (that's why I applied to ~30)

applied to a mix of ~25 IM prelims in competitive location, 2 invites so far.

personally, I say dont freak out yet. My understanding is that you can email prelims when you get an advanced interview at a school and an "in the area" email -- if you dont have enough prelim interviews by Dec/Jan, I think many programs will make exceptions to their interview dates and accommodate you.

applied to 20-25 TY/prelim, at 9 interviews right now. I think I have been more fortunate than most

Our school IM chair told us not to stress, the invites will come. Especially since we're derm!

Anyone get prelim IM invites to BU, Medstar Washington Hospital Center, or Mount Auburn Hospital? If so were you internal or external? I Medstar washington prelim invite, external

I think boston med center sent invites, not that you still can't get one regardless

Mount Auburn, external x4

<-- what kind of stats?

so what is "enough" prelim invites after all? I was thinking 8 with some community programs i was interested in due to location should be enough?

Mt Auburn external invite here, step 1 240+, at Top 10 in NE region

Congratulations!!!

Personally, it was very random for me location/tier/size/strengths/etc x2

Got all the local programs, and then a random mix of size/ strengths/ tiers

Mainly in same tier with a few lower tier local programs

Local interviews, east coast only (where I am from).

</-- can anyone comment on whether they thought away rotations helped them in securing interviews @ certain programs (ms3 here starting to think about where to do aways)

Vanderbilt and Emory are both great away rotations and programs and guarantee you an interview. Georgetown (Washington Hospital Center) also interviews all of their rotators.

I would avoid programs that haurantee interviews. If they grant all rotators an interview, you don't know if its a courtesy interview or if they are actually interested which wastes your time and money. It also comes with the opportunity cost of competing for interviews at another away rotation

Looking back I wish I didn't rotate at places that guaranteed an interview for this reason.

I completely disagree. I chose places I was guaranteed an interview so that I didn't waste my time. I also got letters from my aways which made my interview actually mean something since I had to work closely with the PDs to get a letter. But I also chose NOT to do aways at top 20 institutions for the exact reason people mentioned. Just be smart and do aways where you'd want to go and rock them.

I find it hard to believe "courtesy" interviews are not legitimate interviews-as valuable as a dermatologist's time is, they wouldn't simply waste it just to be nice to an applicant they know stands no chance. Unless there's credible info from a selection committee member on here or online an interview is still an interview.

I chose to do 4 away rotations. 2 at places where interviews are guarenteed and 2 where they are not. I think this approach helped me. I got letters from my aways, including a very reputable doc and this has been brought up at EVERY single derm interview.

It is absolutely a fact that courtesy interviews exist. There are people interviewed on interview day that have previously been assigned "do not rank" status