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anyone else feel like they bombed mayo mn last week
i felt that way too
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POOP
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Mayo Clinic School of Grad Med Educ-MN
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2025–2026 Derm
1 entry❌1. You have to be one of Mangolds fellows to match here. It is a waste of 1 of 28 applications otherwise. The match history of the last however many years speaks for itself, but a current attending at Mayo AZ said to me (slight paraphrasing) “you just have to do what he says for a year and they’ll take you.”
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For mayo MN, did they ask you about your research? or grill you about any of the methods/discussions?
POOP
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how did people find mayo yesterday? behavioral was ok
I have done several interviews...mayos questions easily the most difficult
Feb 21
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lol not what i hoped to see before next week>questions could be tough but everyone was super kind
Feb 21
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was it all standardized, behavioral or a mix?
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what kind of Qs >were they any research questions?
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no
Feb 21
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for mayo mn, did they ask about your research?
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Which mayo?
Feb 21
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I think Mayo (Rochester)
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POOP
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no
Mar 7
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for mayo mn, did they ask about your research?
Mar 7
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I think Mayo (Rochester)
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offered away by mayo rochester assistant PD, didn't see it on the schools that didnt II aways. does anyone know if they ii all away rotators?
They do not interview all aways but few schools do tbh
Feb 21
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POOP
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mayo scottsdale already happened so i updated that
are we sure it was the complete wave? It says on their website 11/17 so maybe those were internals or something?
Feb 21
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not sure, but I received II and am not internal
Feb 21
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mayo clinic FL out
it says sign up not until wednesday but we can on thalamus?? what to do z> sign up!!
Feb 21
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UMD is out
Feb 21
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how many interviews does MD send out?
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Mayo clinic scottsdale II
only 2 dates? and both are already full?? how many spots left on thalamus? 0
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cant sign up until 11/17 thats why >I thought they release on the 17th.. do you think this might be an internal release?
Feb 21
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I'm not internal, but they might have waves
Feb 21
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sigh really wanted this one, anotha one gone it is what it is
Feb 21
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word
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cant sign up until 11/17 thats why >I thought they release on the 17th.. do you think this might be an internal release?
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I'm not internal, but they might have waves
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word
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can we compile a list of places that are anticipated to release invites nov 3rd??
duke, penn, mcw, univ of arkansas, hopkins, UNC, OSU, UPMC
Feb 21
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wait penn is 11/3???
Feb 21
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also Baylor, Geisinger, Mayo, Cornell, Northwestern (?), Ohio State, Arkansas, UT San Antonio, Wisconsin, Virginia Tech
Feb 21
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pretty sure penn is 12/1
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isn't Yale traditionally 11/3?
Feb 21
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per the spreadsheet, 11/17
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wait penn is 11/3???
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also Baylor, Geisinger, Mayo, Cornell, Northwestern (?), Ohio State, Arkansas, UT San Antonio, Wisconsin, Virginia Tech
Mar 7
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pretty sure penn is 12/1
Mar 7
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per the spreadsheet, 11/17
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is there a list of which programs have in person interviews this year
Tulane, hopkins, (feel free to add more), yale, vandy, louisville, USC, miami, mayo Jax
Feb 21
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basically most Florida programs (not all but like 50%), Cincinnati, MUSC, Utah, Mayo AZ, dartmouth
Feb 21
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As in derm interviews are in person? Or prelim/TY
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derm baby
Feb 21
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oh for fuvks sake > LMFAOOO
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basically most Florida programs (not all but like 50%), Cincinnati, MUSC, Utah, Mayo AZ, dartmouth
Mar 7
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As in derm interviews are in person? Or prelim/TY
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derm baby
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oh for fuvks sake > LMFAOOO
Mar 7
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I didn't get a supplemental from BU even though I applied - does this mean anything or should I reach out?
also didn't get a supplemental but I didn't signal so idk
Feb 21
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if you didn't signal then don't expect one
Feb 21
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I signalled and didn't get one :( < what was your step score out of curiosity?
Feb 21
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But the expectations are higher all around. More pubs, more ECs, higher STEP 2, higher grades (if at a graded or H/HP/P school), all while there is more content on STEP 2 than ever etc. Of course it's going to be more challenging to do amazing on STEP 2 with all of the other expectations also rising. Our time is demanded in so many more realms with med school being the same length OR SHORTER than it has always been. It is completely valid for students to be frustrated when programs have high STEP 2 cutoffs. < It's valid to feel frsutrated. it's not valid to be literally appalled or outraged that top dermatology programs to use high scores or high research numbers to screen.
Feb 21
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I dont think anyone is appalled or outraged lmao < you should hear some of my co-rotators lol. One called Mayo "a disgusting program" for having any kind of Step score cut off
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Mayo isn't disgusting because of the step score cut off, it's disgusting because it's Mayo
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Short for Mayonnaise
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Also the step 2 scores on average keep getting more inflated every year. While a 250 used to be super impressive, it's now not even the top half. So programs arent really going on score as much as they are percentile. Totally valid for the most competitive specialty to want med students who score in the top half.
Feb 21
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Pretty sure ortho is more competitive < nah dawg, derm has same board score avg, a lower match rate, higher research #s, higher AOA #s < https://medschoolinsiders.com/specialty-ranking/ use whatever parameters you like to weight it/play around
Feb 21
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I dont think anyone is appalled or outraged lmao < you should hear some of my co-rotators lol. One called Mayo "a disgusting program" for having any kind of Step score cut off
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Mayo isn't disgusting because of the step score cut off, it's disgusting because it's Mayo
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Short for Mayonnaise
Mar 7
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Pretty sure ortho is more competitive < nah dawg, derm has same board score avg, a lower match rate, higher research #s, higher AOA #s < https://medschoolinsiders.com/specialty-ranking/ use whatever parameters you like to weight it/play around
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Does anyone know if the mayo jax away is shadowing or hands on?
hands on but you gotta take initiative to see pts, do procedures, etc
Feb 21
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Someone deleted my message (probably someone from DermLinkScholars). I said I worked with Derm Link Scholars and wanted advice on if I should remove my publication with them from my CV since doctors have said it's unethical and low-quality research published in shitty journals that accept everyone who pays.
Hard to say, depends on if you did basic or clinical research. I'd just compare your productivity with your PI's other fellows or prior fellows to see where you stand
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12+ if clinical, basic science isnt as much as clinical. have seen on average RY
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applicantsget to 20+ on pubmed for their RYs.
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20+ pubs or just research items in general? did basic science, and got 6 research items, with one manuscript in publication, would this be considered productive?
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12+ pubs or items?
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Recently matched after a basic science RY. I had 1 major pub that barely got published in time for ERAS. Basic science papers take forever and people reading your app know that. Supplemented with case reports and review papers. As a side note: for those applying after taking a basic science RY, please please please carefully evaluate what programs you apply to. Most schools that don't value research will not view you as a great fit and you're less likely to get an interview. < adding on to this that if you have a bunch of pubs and applying somewhere where they don't value research / residents don't have a bunch of pubs - same thing, you wont be seen as a great fit to interview or take as a resident
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12 pubs in 1 year is ridiculous. unless ur PI is on the board of a journal it takes months for papers to get accepted
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I mean "submitted" things count
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does it? I recall the PD at Penn during the USC panel saying that anyone can say they "submitted" something so I'm worried they don't really value those
Feb 21
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I have heard anecdotally that people have been asked in interviews to provide updates, so that may be one way that they verify "submitted" things ?
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yeah submitted things count but im referring to them saying 12 things published
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I was reffering to actual publications (not research items). Not saying it to scare anyone as I think research is just one part of your application in addition leadership, volunteering etc, so you can get in with less. Also basic science is dif very different from clinical. Just in my experience I have interacted with mentors that say 12-15+ . Just looking at Mayo, Mt Sinai, Albert Einstien, UM. California, Northwestern those are what some would consider productive
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12+ if clinical, basic science isnt as much as clinical. have seen on average RY
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applicantsget to 20+ on pubmed for their RYs.
Mar 7
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20+ pubs or just research items in general? did basic science, and got 6 research items, with one manuscript in publication, would this be considered productive?
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12+ pubs or items?
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Recently matched after a basic science RY. I had 1 major pub that barely got published in time for ERAS. Basic science papers take forever and people reading your app know that. Supplemented with case reports and review papers. As a side note: for those applying after taking a basic science RY, please please please carefully evaluate what programs you apply to. Most schools that don't value research will not view you as a great fit and you're less likely to get an interview. < adding on to this that if you have a bunch of pubs and applying somewhere where they don't value research / residents don't have a bunch of pubs - same thing, you wont be seen as a great fit to interview or take as a resident
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I mean "submitted" things count
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does it? I recall the PD at Penn during the USC panel saying that anyone can say they "submitted" something so I'm worried they don't really value those
Mar 7
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I have heard anecdotally that people have been asked in interviews to provide updates, so that may be one way that they verify "submitted" things ?
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yeah submitted things count but im referring to them saying 12 things published
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I was reffering to actual publications (not research items). Not saying it to scare anyone as I think research is just one part of your application in addition leadership, volunteering etc, so you can get in with less. Also basic science is dif very different from clinical. Just in my experience I have interacted with mentors that say 12-15+ . Just looking at Mayo, Mt Sinai, Albert Einstien, UM. California, Northwestern those are what some would consider productive
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Anyone doing the Mayo away? Do you know if the dress code is business casual always or can we wear scrubs?
given that even the first year med students are required to be business casual at all times, the cult of mayo probably requires it for fourth years lol
Feb 21
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you should be wering a suit
Feb 21
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mayo previously wore suits aka business professional not business casual, i think they are being more relaxed now?
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hard to imagine mayo being "relaxed" lol
Feb 21
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some of the mayo derm residents are the chillest people i've met lol very down to earth and nice.
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I'm sure the residents are chill, I think it takes a little time for them to indoctrinate
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mayo previously wore suits aka business professional not business casual, i think they are being more relaxed now?
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hard to imagine mayo being "relaxed" lol
Mar 7
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some of the mayo derm residents are the chillest people i've met lol very down to earth and nice.
Mar 7
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I'm sure the residents are chill, I think it takes a little time for them to indoctrinate
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Rant: some programs just match research fellows exclusively year after year. What's the point of even applying to them? why do they interview anyone else? Looking at Mayo AZ as an example. Waste of time that the same PI with the same 2 fellows somehow has this amount of influence.
former student there - do not bother applying here if you are not Mangold's fellow
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Rant: some programs just match research fellows exclusively year after year. What's the point of even applying to them? why do they interview anyone else? Looking at Mayo AZ or Sinai year after year as an example. Waste of time that the same PI with the same 2 fellows somehow has this amount of influence. No
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former student there - do not bother applying here if you are not Mangold's fellow
Mar 21
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Hey ya'll we have most of the spreadsheet filled out now (a separate copy exists despite someone sabotaging and deleting). We are still missing matches for: Kansas (KS), Vanderbilt (TN), Temple (PA), MCG (GA), St. Lukes (PA), HCA Corpus Christi (TX), HealthPartners (MN), Mayo Clinic (Jacksonville) (FL), EVMS (VA), Marshfield Clinic (WI), DCC-Flint (MI), LSU - New Orleans (LA).
Hey ya'll we have most of the spreadsheet filled out now (a separate copy exists despite someone sabotaging and deleting). We are still missing matches for: Kansas (KS), Vanderbilt (TN), Temple (PA), MCG (GA), HCA Corpus Christi (TX), HealthPartners (MN), Mayo Clinic (Jacksonville) (FL), EVMS (VA), Marshfield Clinic (WI), DCC-Flint (MI), LSU - New Orleans (LA).
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Hey ya'll we have most of the spreadsheet filled out now (a separate copy exists despite someone sabotaging and deleting). We are still missing matches for: Kansas (KS), Vanderbilt (TN), Temple (PA), MCG (GA), HCA Corpus Christi (TX), HealthPartners (MN), Mayo Clinic (Jacksonville) (FL), UFlorida (FL), EVMS (VA), Marshfield Clinic (WI), DCC-Flint (MI), LSU - New Orleans (LA).
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5 to 10
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questions were tough, but they would be for anyone so don't beat yourself up!