Penn State Hershey Med Ctr-PA

people still sent LOI. The no thank you note thing is more to make it easier for us since it does not make an impact. LOI probably will not make an impact either, but if you want to it should be fine x2

Anyone have a sense how much these lists move? Feeling freaked out that im probably not ranked extremely highly anywhere and wondering whether ppl get in usually anyway even if no where really ranks them top 5-10

A lot of interviews interviewed the same people so that helps! One applicant can only take up 1 spot. I counted up all the unique spots that there are for my interviews ex 2 spots, 5 spots, 4 spots etc ... and that gave me some comfort

honestly, sometimes I just hope everyone gets what they want and nobody wants the same program as me. lol x2

Radio silence re: late breaking but not sure if they went out. Anyone hear rejection or acceptance?

just got notified today

accepted or rejected?

yes it was a mass email

how many people do Stanford interview?

thank you!

very unlikley to get trickles the other date since many people want to switch to that one since it does not have conflicts so they have waitlists / swaps for that date. There will probably be more trickles for 1/10 though at Brown and other programs.

lol this is funny I see this here, I’m a PGY 1 who did a research talk at penn state last year, I was the only one who didn’t wear a suit, also was one of only 2 people without a PhD. Didn’t really matter I think the talk went well and multiple attendings at interviews the following day seemed genuinely interested in what I had talked about... but it did stand out to me that I should have probably worn a suit lol

Speaking of this, does anyone know on average how far down their list people tend to match? do most people match into one of their top three? -- Absolutely not in derm, some do, but I doubt it's even half. I have the same question, maybe a PGY-1 who already match or a derm resident can help with this one <^PGY1 matched last year. This is a great question, there's no good data on this, it's anecdotal and you have to reason through it. The overall answer is, it's not as common to match top #1-3 as in IM or EM or Peds etc (larger specialties) because class sizes are so much smaller, and it's more competitive. It's also not uncommon, at least to match within your top 3. The way I see it play out is, there's kind of 2 scenarios (2 kinds of applicants) where you're MORE LIKELY to match #1 (not a guarantee and not the only 2 ways but just more likely) -Scenario 1: If you're a very strong applicant and have multiple top 5/10/20 invites, AND one of those programs is your #1 etc., you're more likely to match at your top choice. Those programs usually have larger class sizes so the statistics are much in your favor. Furthermore you're in a group of top applicants who will sort themselves out based on geographic preferences more than actual program rankings (they're all kinda similar in the top 10). -Scenario 2: You're a good applicant overall, and your top #1etc. choice is a program of superior interest or fit to you - e.g. your #1 happens to be your home program where everyone loves you and wants you to stay, or you are from a program that's in your hometown which is very regional - for example let's say your #1 is Penn State and you're from Hershey PA and you make it known you want to be there with family - then you're much more likely to match there as long as they liked you since they know you're a safe choice for coming there and having support etc. This is kind of a niche so you'll know if you're a scenario 2 applicant. -also this is all just like my opinion man

< on last year's spreadsheet, on the stats tab, lots of people matched at their 1st and 2nd choices, but it's hard to get a sense of overall how people match

Yeah but maybe thats just a bias based on the people who posted

<PGY-1 matched last year to #12, but honestly not at all dissapointed. There is a notion that not matching #1 there is something wrong with you/ you would be unhappy. Truthfully I would be dissapointed if I matched #15 and 16, but otherwise I would be ecstatic anywhere else.

<- I only have literally half the number of interviews (6). This does not bode well for me :(

< ya super scary for us folks that cant really go 10+ deep into our rank list because we dont have that many invites

Which Derm programs offer free hotel? Henry Ford, Mayo-Rochester, Mayo-AZ... others? Penn State, I'm there this week.

Nice

Geisinger pays fo hotel as well

Mayo-Jacksonville too

Southern Illinois university as well

It was removed by someone insecure. They did send out a wave of invites.

I don't think it's insecurity so much as this is what happens when people cry wolf!

yes, I did receive a rejection, maybe my application was especially subpar for their standards :(

Yeah. Let's try to give the programs and other applicants a 2-week notice if we can.

we know youre gonna go to UPMC. drop your Penn State interview and let it come to one of us like sweet Hershey chocolate

Agreed. Have edited conditional formatting to highlight (in red) dates that are within the next 2 weeks.

Cool!

you know, its just dumber than dumb to hold on to an interview that you cant go to because statistically it could mean that the person you knocked off of that potential interview is more likely to take your spot in the match.... especially in the same state where some people have ties.... its just really dumb to do that besides being mean. Let people have the interviews at places you dont want to go because then they might match there and will be less competition for the places you actually want to match at!! it just makes sense people!!!

lol this has been resolved and canceled the psu interview last week, i just dont go on this psycho spreadsheet when i dont have to

Anyone else think the two VCU people are a perfect swap but they probably forgot that about their swap request?

Contact info is right on the sheet if you want to contact them direcly and give them a heads up

done lol

The dbaggery with double booking is unbelievable. Wish this was all done through ERAS and applicants couldn't do this in the first place. x2

This 11/29 applicant was actually TRIPLE booked with Yale initially, if you look at the resolved swaps.

Too close to the interview date and a program probably can't even accommodate a swap, the interviewers have to read over files in advance

Its a small world and people will find out about this bullshit

If anyone can switch with their UPMC or Penn State interview date with me, that would be fantastic. Otherwise, please leave me alone. These programs don't even have waitlists. They're not going to pull one of you guys in at the last minute. Thanks.

Damn, ice cold reply. But it is a little messed up people are attacking the person for doing something, almost everyone here would probably do too in the same situation

I don't have sympathy for the applicant who's manipulating the interview system. If he/she cancels right before an interview, or no-shows, their school should hear about it and word should spread. Do you think the program that gets shafted will invite future applicants from that school?

These programs don't even have waitlists --- you can't be serious. Just because a program doesn't send out a waitlist doesn't mean they don't have alternates they will offer an interview when people cancel. Programs have a number of interviews they want to conduct in order to ensure they match all their spots. If everyone like you refused to drop an interview until the last minute, you are putting these programs in a bad spot and hurting another person's chance of matching. x3 again canceled psu last week and just didnt update this spreadsheet so yall are wasting your time complaining about me

This person forgets that several lines up they asked if anyone could switch their UPMC or Penn State interview date with them

I hope so! A reliable source told me they are not done extending invites. They also have several tracks like med-derm, research track, and CTCL that have not extended invites yet

Just a heads up, I think the only date offered for the regular track is 1/11 at the moment

Research interviews are from 1/4-5; the coordinator said they're sending them out soon (I'm an internal). I dunno if there are also regular-track interviews on that day

Thanks for clarifying! I've updated my comment reflecting this one. Coord also noted that most spots on 1/4 are reserved for research track and med-derm applicants as I couldn't switch in |

Are you talking about U Penn or Penn state?

Penn = UPenn