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Does anyone know if Ilana Rosman is leaving Wash U for Arkansas?
Rumor about a top program faculty leaving right before certification is due...
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Top program?? Just because it's not "top 5" doesn't mean it's not a top program.
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Barnes-Jewish Hosp-MO
WashUSt Louis, MO
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Any other programs offer a diversity second look other than UCSF?
Yale; MCW; stanford
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Wash U
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<we're all these through the derm departments?
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WashU Trickle for 1/9 that I had to pass on! Coming someone's way
For a 1/9 interview this may be the trickle that keeps on giving!!! <my thoughts too, their other date is even worse, 1/16...
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Einstein vs WashU?
Same idea as Michigan << what does that mean? << see below
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Force the trickle!
Just dropped SLU and WUSTL, may the trickle be with you.
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Omg, I want your WUSTLE!!! lol, you must not like St. Louis MO?
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If I could give you my WUSTL I would!
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Sorry to post on here. Is anyone looking to swap 1/16 WUSTL for 1/9? dermapp2020@gmail.com Thanks!
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Sorry to annoy but just posted on interview swap: if anyone with Wash U would prefer 1.9 over 1.16, you'd be doing me a solid!--> Ill swap!
Thanks, 1 swap made!
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< I am trying to make the same swap and posted in the interview swap page
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Washington University rejection x15
< dumb question - WUSTL or UDub?
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If you know that it's called UDub, then you know it's not the University of Washington. PSA: The U goes before the W for the University of Washington. The W goes before the U at WUSTL
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Amazing how quickly we update this sheet sometimes HAHA
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I've updated at least three of the rejections. Maybe I should move away from this site and work on my step II :'( << dont worry when it comes to rejections i can definitely help update the sheet - meme
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So no second wave? :(
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Can we create some sort of list on what reputations/tiers are? Think this would be useful since I feel like there's not a great objective system of rankings. >>Maybe someone can make a tab and everyone can make their preconceived thoughts on program strengths, might be useful to compare especially since some of us geographically limited lol > A list like this is probably not useful or valid. But it would be fun to see what people think. Tier list page made!
Top tier: UPenn Harvard UCSF NYU Mayo Michigan, Emory, Henry Ford?) and Michigan and Mayo are not top tier. Would add Stanford, Hopkins, and UCLA instead)
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would also add UTSW https://www.mdedge.com/dermatology/article/157864/practice-management/us-dermatology-residency-program-rankings-based/page/0/1 <<what is the difference between this article and the doximity rankings? Is there more validity to one vs the other? << lol, someone put UCLA in top tier (UCLA isn't even a Department, it's a Division) >> lol UCLA low tier for sure << realistically, probably middle to low, great overall health system but will always have hands tied and no real ability to grow
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UCLA is a solid program, strong surgical training, lacks the super complex patients of some more intense programs but it depends on what you are looking for in your training << I don't think anyone's saying it's a bad program, just not a top tier, that's kind of silly
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UCLA is the perfect example of a low-to-mid tier program that is nonetheless quite competitive given it's in California. Again, there's often a disconnect between prestige/quality of training and competitiveness. Location, location, location.
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No way that Hopkins and UCLA would be top tier over Michigan and Mayo
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Mid-tier: OHSU, Iowa, Minnesota, UPMC >> Would probably put MN as low tier? >> Thoughts? Why? >> Minnesota would probably be in same tier as OHSU, Iowa, UPMC. Iowa has great faculty, but I think it does suffer from being in a relatively non-diverse, predominately white, smallish-city in Iowa. Minnesota, OHSU, and UPMC are in more urban environments with at least UPMC and Minnesota having more ethnic / racial diversity, (Portland is super white as well). Also, no one should trust that MDedge nonsense x5
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To be fair they tried to make an objective measure. Many of the opinions here leave out some good programs and add in top medical schools that are not top derm programs
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MN, Iowa as med-high tier? Would drop UPMC to low tier (just feel like no residents really enjoy it there but maybe that's just me lol)? And Iowa usually as a top 20 program on almost all ranking systems (though you cant always trust these things so who knows). I think its one of those places that suffers in many peoples minds because they have a not-so great med school and its in the mid west, but the derm program is actually extremely well-respected independednt of those facts
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1. Penn 2. UCSF 3. NYU 4. Harvard 5. Stanford 6. Northwestern 7. Emory 8. UTSW 9. Hopkins 10. Wash U 11. Mayo 12. Michigan 13. Iowa 14. HF 15. OHSU 16. Colorado 17. Minnesota 18. Utah 19. Cornell 20. Vanderbilt
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<-What is this list based on? Its totally inaccurate. Hopkins and Vanderbilt are mid tier programs at best. No Yale? No UW? No Wisconsin? No Miami? No Sinai? Cornell over Columbia? UPMC is definitely mid to top tier. Also, tiers maybe, but I dont understand how you can possibly rank 1 vs. 3 vs. 8 off the cuff << yeah, 1-3 is pretty standard, gets messy with next 5 I was about to post how accurate this list is. Some of the programs listed above are no way in the conversation. You can maybe disagree with Wash U/Cornell to the left tho. I'd agree Vanderbilt too high too
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<Yale for sure. x4 . Think that list is pretty accurate for top 20 minus Wash U, Cornell, and Vanderbilt. Would replace with Yale and Columbia. And Cleveland Clinic maybe. <<I question the order of some of these too. Hopkins is not a top 10 (but it is a top 20 probably). I agree that Sinai, miami, Columbia would also be top 20. Vandy should not be on that list and neither should a few others.
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<How good are the following programs: UPMC, Hopkins, UCSD, Miami.
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I think those are all decent programs (mid-top tier?). I would say that I typically view Hopkins as a mid-tier program (they don't have a lot of diversity in terms of training sites, though Hopkins itself is a great hospital). Miami is typically considered a Top 10 program - but they also are quite disorganized, old facilities, longer hours (Saturday clinics). UPMC takes a lot of MD/PhDs and has great Mohs training, though I never found their program actually attracts people who want to be there. UCSD is solid, somewhat basic-science focused. It's outshined by other programs in California (e.g. Stanford, UCSF, USC) and San Diego has great weather / beaches, though admittedly isn't the most exciting place to live / lacks a lot of arts / culture compared to most bigger cities in the United States.
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name me a state with better Mexican food tho
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WASH U Invite Method: ERAS. External, no ties. x6
CONGRATS! << individualized or group message?
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< Group I'm pretty sure
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no message whatsoever, so either pre-rejection or limbo
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I think they are one of the many that never send out rejections << yay, unofficially rejected! :D
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With their dates, trickles are possible. << def this. Looks like they sent out invites on a Friday then the next Monday last year
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Added dates to calendar: 1/9 and 1/16
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Okay, I am going to dare fate. "OH BOY IT SURE IS A SLOW DAY TODAY FOR INTERVIEW INVITATIONS." Now expect waves upon waves of interview invites in the next hour. << lol, so true << and here, we see the American derm applicant engaged in its daily courtship ritual. << lmao 5 mins after this, Wash U invite << amazing!
Don't know if I believe it -_- << the Derm Gods tease us << someone do it again << but yeah, have a feeling this one might be fake
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definitely not fake
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interviews? you mean rejections right?🙃< Positivity, pls.
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I'm positive some rejections are gonna go out. Get it?
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Love it. << You said ~slow day~ and then GW rejected like 500 of us. LMAO HOLY SHIT
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Will derm interview invites be offered on Thursday 11/7/19 following a silent Wednesday (1 derm rejection)? Yes: 2 No: 0 Programs: WashU (regular), Stanford, Minnesota Actual: Recap of Wednesday 11/6/19 Invites: 0 Rejections: 1 (U of Rochester) TY/Prelim released today (2): U Pitt (Prelim and TY), Brockton (TY) Derm interviews released since Monday (12 first time offers, 1 research track, 1 second wave): U New Mexico, U Arkansas, Oklahoma, Eastern Virginia, Howard, NYU, Mississippi, Medical College of Wisconsin, Georgetown, Wash U (Research), Henry Ford, George Washington, St. John’s Episcopal Hospital and Cooper (2nd wave) TY/Prelim released this week: UVA (Prelim), U Pitt (Prelim and TY) and Brockton (TY) As of 8:40 EST: 63% of derm programs have not sent out interviews and a sum total of ~171/447 (38%) derm spots have been offered interviews. What's the point? IT IS EARLY and the overwhelming majority of spots have not been offered interviews yet AND even the ones that have been offered may not have offered for all their spots. On this equivalent day (i.e. first Wednesday of the month) last year: 1 interview went out (George Washington University, which came out yesterday for us). On tomorrow’s equivalent day (i.e. first Thursday of November) last years: 6 derm interviews went out and 1 med/derm interview! (Wayne State, U Minnesota, Dartmouth, Columbia, Virginia Tech, Southern Illinois and Washington MedDerm) Looking ahead: This week last year was a busy week for interviews with 16 being released in total! Goodnight everyone! -SD
<< This is a long post with some relevant data in addition to your predictions. Hope you all find this useful and have a goodnight! -SD << You're #1 in my heart. Thanks SD <3 x7 <<< SheetDaddy fan here, but I think if the posts were smaller, more morsels/highlights, like the first program prediction/tally template - we'd probably get most people on board. On mobile a post like this to the left takes up entire screen
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<-- Download the "Calm" App. << why? << because this is neurotic! << Chill out bro, don't read it if you don't like it instead of being negative. Maybe you should spend your time using the "calm" app instead of being up everyones ass x6 << this actually is pretty neurotic, and I don't think saying something is neurotic should invite such a volatile response. Like damn this whole SD shit is becoming cult-like and stupid.
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Hey SD--how many interviews do you have? x2
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sdff
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Good morning everyone! Will interview invites be released 11/6/19? Yes: 5 No: 11 Programs: Mount Sinai, University of Miami, Cornell, Vanderbilt, Hopkins, Penn Actual: 0 As of 12:00PM today: 63% of programs have not sent out interviews and a sum total of ~171 derm spots have been offered interviews. What does this discrepency between the % of programs that have not been released and the large amount of spots that have not been offered interviews? That the 63% of interviews that have not been released encompasses the larger programs that have more spots and many that have already sent out interviews are smaller and more "regional". What's the point? IT IS EARLY and the overwhelming majority of spots have not been offered interviews yet AND even the ones that have been offered may not have offered for all their spots. On this equvelant day (i.e. first Wednesday of the month) in last years application cycle: 1 interview went out (George Washington University, which came out yesterday for us). Love, SD
Johns Hopkins and Penn are both overdue for interview invites this year. Hopefully, Vanderbilt sends its regular ones out today << Mayo AZ is also pretty overdue << Also, to the neurotics among us, just know that Penn, Vanderbilt, and Johns Hopkins have historically sent out their invitations in batches
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Penn's website says by 11/25
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<Hopkins and penn - both of these places so far out of my reach it doesn't affect me << Try not to feel this way. I was on 0 for a long time and got 2 interviews at top 10 programs. My app is so regular that I assumed it was a mistake. The point is, you never know and no program is a reach.
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<haha, Mt. Sinai practically sends after Christmas, but I like the wishful thinking!
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12/6 in 2017, but yes, probs too early.
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FINAL RESULTS OF INTERVIEW INVITES 11/5/19 Programs (6): Georgetown, Wash U (research), Henry Ford, GW, St. Johns Episcopal, Cooper (second contact) Congratulations to everyone who received an invite today! For those that didn't, hang in there! it is still early. See the data below for some reassurance.
Thanks dad!!!
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Will (more) interviews be released on (11/5/19)? Yes: 1 No: 0 Program Predictions: Mayo AZ, Hopkins, Stanford, Harvard, Minnesota, UMiami, Vanderbilt, Jefferson, Ohio State, Penn, UChicago, Wayne State, Texas Tech, UAB, SIU, Rush, Temple, UVA Actual IVs (4): Georgetown, Wash U (research), Henry Ford, George
< You know, there is the entirety of the West Coast to consider. We're still in business hours << I don't think it's updated to say we're done, just a running tally (the same row is moved up) << just updated it << 10+ person, can you please press CTRL+Z to not erase the field that was there or use the function to get the past entry back << Thank you for reverting it back to original
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idk, haven't heard that?