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thoughts on cook county yday? aside from the horrific scheduling and tech issues lol
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For anyone who attended the Cleveland Clinic (CCF) virtual meet and greet on Monday, did they mention if it is part of the interview process or if it is more for the applicants to learn about the program?
I dont think any social is required
Feb 21
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i feel like it's a bad look to not attend unless you have a v exigent circumstance esp if you got a gift card to the point that it might as well be required
Feb 21
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I think if you email the PC, and they say it's fine then dont worry. I genuinely don't think it's a big deal, but also I wouldn't just no show, you should let the PC know
Feb 21
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the email said "our interview consists of 3 parts" so i was under the impression that all 3 parts (eg social) were required
Feb 21
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lol i feel like no program actually requires the social and all usually say its not impacting rank and such
Feb 21
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i feel like it's a bad look to not attend unless you have a v exigent circumstance esp if you got a gift card to the point that it might as well be required
Mar 7
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I think if you email the PC, and they say it's fine then dont worry. I genuinely don't think it's a big deal, but also I wouldn't just no show, you should let the PC know
Mar 7
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the email said "our interview consists of 3 parts" so i was under the impression that all 3 parts (eg social) were required
Mar 7
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does anyone know the schedule for cook county or the format of interviews? (time per room/number of rooms)
It's on thalamus!
Feb 21
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did CCF not interview a lot of home students? i feel like there weren't that many on the social last night
lol how would you know that based on the breakout rooms?>CCF does not interview a lot of homes. Mostly CCLCMs and CWRU that rotates there
Feb 21
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for programs that give uber eats gift cards for the meet & greets, do people actually eat during the zoom call or are you getting food before/after> omg what program was doing this, im so jelly
cleveland clinic did! >
Feb 21
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>before>after for me>use it on uber rides LOL
Feb 21
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BOBA
Feb 21
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BOBA
Mar 7
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Any residents who ranked a lower ranked/community program over T10s who could speak to whether they're happy with or regret their decision? My current top choice is a lower ranked program close to family and near my partner (who won't be able to move for the next 2 years), but wondering if I'll regret this down the line
resident here, it would help if you gave some more info - throw a couple of names out or regions. Because what specific high tier are we talking about and what community program?
Feb 21
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mostly debating NYU/Yale vs a smaller Chicago program
Feb 21
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This is just my opinion, but I would go with NYU/Yale personally. NYU>>> for me though because it's a much better location. If we're talking Rush, UIC, Loyola then it would be fine to go there. But if it is cook county I definitely wouldnt recommend it.
Feb 21
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NYU rocks
Feb 21
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OP here, thanks everyone! have lots to think about (it's not cook county, so I guess need to do some reflection on how strongly I feel about academics)
Feb 21
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doxxing students # of aways is not the answer lmao im sure if you were accepted to 3+ aways and they all fit in your schedule you would have done them too
Feb 21
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i disagree. follow the rules
Feb 21
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rules are dumb this is a zero sum game. Why would i cost myself an opportunity to rotate and potentially match at a program in favor of helping some random person out. Not to mention the fact that people who do research years or have connections prior to aways already have a separate advantage
Feb 21
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honestly it'll depend on how strict your home program is, some home programs are quite adamant about only doing 2 aways, in which case you don't want to burn a bridge with your home program by going against your home PD guidance and doing more than that - if you don't have a home program/they don't care, I suppose go ahead and do as many as you want/can
Feb 21
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reminder that the "max 2 away" guideline is a GUIDELINE, not a rule!
Feb 21
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2/3 of my aways said when they check your rotations, they'll ding you (in whatever capacity) for going over
Feb 21
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4/4 of mine did not even ask lol
Feb 21
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all 3 of my aways asked where else I was rotating - obviously you could lie, but I'm not a great liar lol
Feb 21
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a PD I worked with told me if he found out an applicant was breaking the APD guidelines for aways, they wouldn't consider the applicant same for all 3 of mine. (Northeast)
Feb 21
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I suspect the more this becomes an arms race, the more restrictions will be implemented. It’ll just reach a point where so many people apply to aways that it’s not sustainable, and then doing an away will simply not mean anything anymore.
Feb 21
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doing an away will always help bc it helps programs put a face to the name (unless you have no social skills/don't make a positive in person impression), it's just that it's becoming harder and harder to get them and some people hog them (ex., have heard of some MD students doing 7-8 aways) while others are struggling to even get 1 away
Feb 21
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But it’s becoming more common that programs don’t prioritize away rotators, e.g. UTMB no longer guaranteeing interviews for away rotators
Feb 21
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Presumably you still have a higher chance of matching as an away rotator who got an interview, than someone who got an interview with no connections though. I think people forget that aways are essentially a month long interview and they get to know you better than a half day formal interview. I know personally I would prefer no interview to a guaranteed courtesy interview for all aways. Like if for whatever reason they decided they weren't going to interview/rank you after spending a month there, I don't think a half day of interviews will change their mind much?
Feb 21
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people fixate on number of interviews when it should be about quality, if an away program interviews everyone but is only going to rank half of those rotators high enough to potentially match, it benefits both the program and applicant for them to not guarantee interviews
Feb 21
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POOP
Feb 21
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i disagree. follow the rules
Mar 7
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rules are dumb this is a zero sum game. Why would i cost myself an opportunity to rotate and potentially match at a program in favor of helping some random person out. Not to mention the fact that people who do research years or have connections prior to aways already have a separate advantage
Mar 7
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honestly it'll depend on how strict your home program is, some home programs are quite adamant about only doing 2 aways, in which case you don't want to burn a bridge with your home program by going against your home PD guidance and doing more than that - if you don't have a home program/they don't care, I suppose go ahead and do as many as you want/can
Mar 7
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reminder that the "max 2 away" guideline is a GUIDELINE, not a rule!
Mar 7
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2/3 of my aways said when they check your rotations, they'll ding you (in whatever capacity) for going over
Mar 7
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4/4 of mine did not even ask lol
Mar 7
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all 3 of my aways asked where else I was rotating - obviously you could lie, but I'm not a great liar lol
Mar 7
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a PD I worked with told me if he found out an applicant was breaking the APD guidelines for aways, they wouldn't consider the applicant same for all 3 of mine. (Northeast)
Mar 7
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doing an away will always help bc it helps programs put a face to the name (unless you have no social skills/don't make a positive in person impression), it's just that it's becoming harder and harder to get them and some people hog them (ex., have heard of some MD students doing 7-8 aways) while others are struggling to even get 1 away
Mar 7
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But it’s becoming more common that programs don’t prioritize away rotators, e.g. UTMB no longer guaranteeing interviews for away rotators
Mar 7
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Presumably you still have a higher chance of matching as an away rotator who got an interview, than someone who got an interview with no connections though. I think people forget that aways are essentially a month long interview and they get to know you better than a half day formal interview. I know personally I would prefer no interview to a guaranteed courtesy interview for all aways. Like if for whatever reason they decided they weren't going to interview/rank you after spending a month there, I don't think a half day of interviews will change their mind much?
Mar 7
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people fixate on number of interviews when it should be about quality, if an away program interviews everyone but is only going to rank half of those rotators high enough to potentially match, it benefits both the program and applicant for them to not guarantee interviews
Mar 7
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any Cleveland Clinic rotators get an interview?
no:(
Feb 21
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Honestly I would reach out to the places you rotated or gold signals and see if they'll give you honest feedback on what happened. If you plan on applying again anyway. If not, fuck em time to move on as best you can. Sorry for the rough cycle friend
Feb 21
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Does anyone still have 0 iis?
yes
Feb 21
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what r u going to do
Feb 21
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cry
Feb 21
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kms
Feb 21
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i might actually kms. 500k in debt and I can't see myself doing other things in med. If I don't get a single II by 9 pm cst I will jump
Feb 21
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Hope this is not serious
Feb 21
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was cleveland clinic thalamus?
Feb 21
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yes
Feb 21
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Anyone hear anything about the Cleveland Clinic away rotation? Do rotators interview/match there?
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What programs have explicit requirements on their website (not residency explorer or Freida) about GPA requirements? For example, I saw that GW requires being in the top 1/3 of your class, what about programs have this kind of language on their website?
Not on their website but I've heard cook county has a step cut off that's decently high (it's 260).
Feb 21
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UF wants at least top 50%
Feb 21
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UF wants at least top 50%
Mar 7
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does anyone know the gossip about cook county?? previous resident is suing and I can't find the documents on why unless i pay for them from the court house. < where did you see the suing omg< they've had like 3 residents leave the program in the last 2-3 years including someone leaving to do their chief year elsewhere, very sus
tea.>>+! must be good tea
Feb 21
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What is cleveland clinic away like
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does cleveland clinic typically interview away rotators?
Its not a guarantee unfortunately
Feb 21
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thank you! do they interview the majority? I know this year was a different platform than VSLO
Feb 21
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I am not sure on this so sorry
Feb 21
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thank you! do they interview the majority? I know this year was a different platform than VSLO
Mar 7
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I am not sure on this so sorry
Mar 7
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whats the stats goal to be competitive again? 250+ step 2? honors? first author pubs?
250+ step 2, mix of honors / high pass, maybe a first author pub or two (actual journal articles) or at least a few co-authors. The rest is networking >ily ty
Feb 21
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Been told 240s is soft cutoff but they prefer 250+
Feb 21
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240s soft for most programs, some are 250s cut off so just get 250 to be safe>facts heard 250 to 260 is ideal. <250 is tough
Feb 21
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I think cook county has the highest publicly disclosed cutoff at 250
Feb 21
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240s soft for most programs, some are 250s cut off so just get 250 to be safe>facts heard 250 to 260 is ideal. <250 is tough
Mar 7
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I think cook county has the highest publicly disclosed cutoff at 250
Mar 7
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anyone know anything about whether cleveland clinic is offering aways
they had their own portal and already sent offers
Feb 21
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yes, i applied in february for an october rotation but never heard back. i just didn't know if anyone had heard back because no one said
Feb 21
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> i haven't heard back either - why do you think they sent offers....
Feb 21
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Some posts are shown because their comments mention this program.
I don't remember them mentioning it, but it did feel like a requirement, especially since they gave uber eats gift cards for it.