New York, NY
Sentiment score: 3.2 / 10
Mount Sinai's dermatology program is perceived as highly selective and heavily favoring internal candidates, research fellows, and those with prior rotation experience at the institution. Applicants express frustration about limited opportunities for external candidates and concerns about the program's selectivity criteria, though it maintains a reputation as a competitive top-tier program. There are also mentions of program leadership changes, interview logistics questions, and some negative commentary about the program's culture and candidate selection practices.
❌1. almost pointless to apply here if you aren't a research fellow or have a strong connection. nepotism is worth more than anything else here
❌2. I was offered an away in June and had to decline it because in their offer email they stated that because of the "number of attendings we would be rotating with" we should not expect letters of recommendation nor ask for them.
💬1. seriously, why would ANYONE waste a signal here if you didnt do a RY with the department? 90-100% of their spots go to their own fellows.
Does anyone know which RY programs pay PGY-1 salary? Mount Sinai does, right? A lot of the "paid" ones are like 20-30k stipends...
honestly most are even less than that - I got 12.5k and know of several people who got less
That's honestly as good as it'll get. I got 40k and that seems pretty good to me
Which programs are known rotation mills?
Harvard
USC
Even more important than rotation mills are programs that only take their own research fellows. While rotation mills will still interview and match a percentage of their rotators (with variability between programs), programs that only take their research fellows will rotate and interview many of their rotators, but ultimately offer little to no chance of matching for those outside their fellows.
what programs do this besides sinai
what programs do this besides sinai, Mayo AZ
Rotating, signaling, and interviewing at these programs is a waste of time and is performative; they already know who they plan to take for the upcoming cycle
WashU
very true. Do NOT waste your time at Mayo AZ or Sinai. UConn also (at least this year). CWRU as well is a major rotation mill people need to talk more about
UCONN
Penn
Wake
CWRU
northwestern
does anyone know how many people at mount sinai were did their RY at mt sinai?
what does this mean
all but 2, and one of the 2 is a phd
no, they matched 3 people who did not do their RY there
does anyone know how many people who matched at mount sinai did their RY at mt sinai?
all but 2, and one of the 2 is a phd
no, they matched 3 people who did not do their RY there
Can those who took a RY share how to go about searching for these? I'm from a pretty good program and am conflicted whether it's best to do a RY at a smaller, lower tier school I'd love to match at (in my home state) or do it at a 'top-tier' program. Anyone know of any programs that have great RY outcomes?
would definitely recommend the smaller, lower tier school that you're interested in matching at and this is coming from someone who did their RY at a top-tier program with many other research fellows
Anyone have thoughts on Mount Sinai RY (other than the internal bias for their RY candidates, are they decent output, good mentorship?)
imo one of the best RYs you can do. several of their RY students presented at AAD this year. your mentor will be a derm expert and if you work hard and get along with everyone you have a very good chance of matching there
imo one of the best RYs you can do. several of their RY students presented at AAD this year. your mentor will be a derm expert and if you work hard and get along with everyone you have a very good chance of matching there>> Presenting to AAD aint shit lmao the only benefit is that they have strong linkage to match internal.
Thoughts on doing a RY at Harvard?
how many sinai med students matched?
srry unrelated but the incoming MS4 sinai students are goated rn they are super good presenters
There are some cutie academic gay dermatologists though (looking at you, Markus Boos)
agree, there should be a bare minimum level of professionality held by people representing the profession. Public trust in the health system and physicians has been eroded over the past 5yr and sorry to hurt everyones feelings, but people such as this are only further damaging that (can this)>> Yes Dr. Boos is the best! I'm talking more people like the sirdermzalot on IG and some of the other wanna be influencers on tik tok talking about sword swallowing in between their rants
a certain upcoming PGY2 resident is very cringe and borderline unprofessional about all the gay stuffs he posts...> I'm sorry but what's wrong with wearing a speedo? It's giving the whole discourse on female doctors wearing bikinis >sirdermzalot is the nicest and kindest person ever, leave him alone
i see nothing wrong with speedos and being yourself. a happy doctor = better care :)
but if a female resident/attending posts in a bikini.....>> No literally. Post whatever you want, but having a physician social media page with your cheeks and balls out in a speedo and posed naked with the blur APP is CRAZY work. Supposed to sit here and pretend its normal lol have some level of decorum. As a gay man it gives me second hand embarrassment bc it makes us look vapid and air headed, if a female physician were to do that she would get judged and canceled yet bc you're a guy that sleeps w other guys suddenly its ok? like what lmao
Are Sinai med students not strong? Their match list for derm always surprises me. I thought they had a good school name, but they barely ever have any ever matches to programs outside of Sinai.
might be bc since they only take their own research years its less reciprocal for other schools to take them
they literally matched 1 person to Harvard and 1 person to UCLA outside of the 2 students at Sinai. not sure what this person is talking about
were all icahn matches research fellows this year?
Yes per usual
Every single one was?
yes
incorrect
7/10 were
were all icahn matches research fellows this year? Yes, most of them 1-2 year fellows
Yes per usual
7/10 were
Every single one was?
yes
incorrect> 7/10 were
Does anyone know what programs have research positions that typically will match their fellows?
sinai
penn has a ton of research fellows that do not match at penn
Does anybody know anything about Mount Sinai Chicago's prelim program? I can't find much about it.
why is it better to do a prelim over a TY if you don't match? < it isnt. It's better to do a TY. Unless you want to do IM back up; then the only benefit of a prelim of your first year of IM is done. Otherwise TY is easier, more chill, and usually allows you more time to do aways and research
Looked up the cook county PGY3 that got dismissed. Very sad that this can happen. How are people getting dismissed from derm programs? Have heard of many residents now getting dismissed, for example at Mount Sinai recently too
>UH, Stanford too
How do you find this information?
word of mouth. although not sure about each person's specific circumstances.
this post needs to be pinned. there are residents getting fired from programs and its too risky to be around unstable faculty who can ruin your career
multiple residents also left this program!
Whats going on with the Boston University comment about accredidation/cheating scandal?
proof?
so this whole time they're just under accreditation warning cause the residents cheated.. wtf?>> THey took someone I know that was the most idiotic person in medicine clinically but somehow had the highest step2 score of people I've known, i wouldn't be suprised if he paid a testing facility in their home country so they could cheat
is this somethign that happened recently?
their accredidation status is normal now fyi
where do you see that
pretty sure this cheating scandal was a different program + 4
lmao this is sinai not BU
which resident at sinai?
which resident at sinai?
Searching up every PD and Chair's name in the Epstein Files....> im sure
PD money and epstein files money is a whole different class of money lol
yeah unfortunately most academic derms won't be making finance/CEO level salaries lol, although there are a surprising # of derm attendings/residents from generational wealth
stay away from Mt Sinai, yikes
I mean, I wouldn't put it past anybody. OSU's obgyn chair is involved: https://www.reddit.com/r/medicalschool/comments/1qzfzmi/the_chair_of_obstetrics_and_gynecology_at_the/
wow
wow
Is everyone on here from Arkansas? jesus christ.
and we have the entire UCSF squad lol
and the Sinai RY fellows> and cornell lovers
Someone share the Arkansas secret, what's so great??
The governor of arkansas?
The governor of arkansas?
post-interview medstar tea?
resident suicide(s) in the past? idk, i cant find much info on it.
Resident has also been terminated in the program before.
what do you have to do to get terminated damn < idk, but there was also an nyu resident who terminated before. it was a whole thing on this spreadsheet a few years ago.
i heard the same with mt sinai and stanford a couple years back
i heard the same with mt sinai and stanford a couple years back
has anyone heard back from prelim IV for Mount Sinai Morningside?
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