ISMMS Mount Sinai Hospital-NY

More of a cutoff at least at programs I'm familiar with. home pd says she considers everything 260+ the same

i think vanderbilt and mayo in particular love high stats (275+)

< know a couple residents at those places with 250s

anything else that was special about those applicants

had super cool niche hobbies, think falconry and white water rafting

underwater bsket weaving

und

240s here and i like painting pics of my pet cat picasso-style

might make more sense to take a year pursuing underwater basket weaving rather than research years at this point tbh

sign me uppppp

i think vanderbilt and mayo in particular love high stats (275+)>does sinai love high step scores too?

no cutoff at my home program, gradient from low to high is considered but context of app/rest of app is much more heavy than the score itself

sinai loves their RY students lmao

hell yeah ranked to match pss pss pss

charting outcomes shows increasing with match rate w increasing score

people are only human. I'd wager that those who get a 270+ are still seen with an added halo effect. With the added caveat that those people aren't weirdos and can interview decently, of course

Is there a reason Icahn Sinai/Kravis Children's isn't in the prelim interview list? Has anyone heard from them? > Just added a tab for it

and some schools dont even specifiy on RE or their own website :(

What about Harvard, Sinai? Residency explorer says: no more than 3, but website says minimum of 3 > personally would use their website as a primary source rather than residency explorer

Why app to Sinai? They give 90% of their spots to internal applicants. Waste of money.

I did not look

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lmaoooo sinai's quaking at this

what happened ?

because there's no consequences for faculty - literally know one person who the whole department + staff know that they are abusive to students - including yelling + cursing at students and making them cry (publically in front of department and clinic staff) and nothing was done. they literally blatantly lie about students to other faculty, which leads to the students who are abused being villanized. probably to try and hide the abuse even more or try to make people feel like it was ok to mistreat those people. it's sad that this person is still allowed to work with students (and gets paid to "mentor" them). the people giving mentorship grants to them are unknowingly endorsing abusive treatment of students and it's super sad to see.

what program?

is the allegation by OP referring to sinai?

not surprised, they recently fired a PGY3

OP who posted about the faculty: this is NOT mount sinai

nope the allegations to the left are NOT about mount sinai

something tells me OP is saying sinai

that's not cool. why try to spread lies when i'm saying it's not about mt sinai. if it was about that institution i'd just say it. almost seems like you're trying to cover up the truth.

because there's no consequences for faculty - literally know one person who the whole department + staff know that they are abusive to students - including yelling + cursing at students and making them cry (publically in front of department and clinic staff) and nothing was done. they literally blatantly lie about students to other faculty, which leads to the students who are abused being villanized. probably to try and hide the abuse even more or try to make people feel like it was ok to mistreat those people. it's sad that this person is still allowed to work with students (and gets paid to "mentor" them). the people giving mentorship grants to them are unknowingly endorsing abusive treatment of students and it's super sad to see. they've also got in trouble multiple times for aggressive behavior to staff.

say the institution then

i imagine there's few derm faculty that would fit that description. derm is pretty chill. that faculty needs an intervention.

last year all but 1 student was from RY. not sure why it would be different this year unfortunately

I think most small programs 2 or fewer reisdents/class tend to take primarily away rotators/fellows not just Mayo AZ, however mayo AZ especially isnt worth it unless you did a research fellowship with them. Sinai also as you said, but they are a big program just with tons of fellows that are essentially guaranteed a spot. UCLA also past years has also taken primarily research fellows. Programs that heavily favor away rotators tend to be NYC programs, especially cornell. Texas programs tend to primarily recruit from texas schools or away rotators with texas connections. USF primarily takes those with regional connections. CWRU usually takes home students and their own research fellows. Wouldnt even bother with the Larkin programs unless you have no other choice and can pay for a spot. Hopefully this is helpful, will try to add more if I think of any

i think this is all good info but if your mentor has connecs and advocates for u, can still get interview w/o rotating/RY

Texas programs will take Texans that went to medical school outside of the state (got interviews at every Texas school I applied to and did medical school in another state - am Texan)

stanford come to mind

penn

any program that has a special research resident spot or combined med-derm program. Would also look at programs that take a lot of Mh/PhDs

jhu as well

miami, utsw, ucsf, michigan

sinai?

yale

there were 2 or 3 but from T5 with extensive research

did sinai match anyone without a fellowhsip there?? is it a waste to apply)

there were 2 or 3 but from T5 with extensive research

it was only 2

honestly most are even less than that - I got 12.5k and know of several people who got less

That's honestly as good as it'll get. I got 40k and that seems pretty good to me

Harvard

USC

Even more important than rotation mills are programs that only take their own research fellows. While rotation mills will still interview and match a percentage of their rotators (with variability between programs), programs that only take their research fellows will rotate and interview many of their rotators, but ultimately offer little to no chance of matching for those outside their fellows.

what programs do this besides sinai

what programs do this besides sinai, Mayo AZ

Rotating, signaling, and interviewing at these programs is a waste of time and is performative; they already know who they plan to take for the upcoming cycle

WashU

very true. Do NOT waste your time at Mayo AZ or Sinai. UConn also (at least this year). CWRU as well is a major rotation mill people need to talk more about

UCONN

Penn

Wake

CWRU

northwestern

Every other year uconn has taken a lot of their away rotators, including all their current residents.

sinai = cornell

columbia

einstein

NYU

downstate

something to think about is that cornell and columbia have twice as much call as sinai and nyu due to class size

cornell & mt sinai

what does this mean

all but 2, and one of the 2 is a phd

no, they matched 3 people who did not do their RY there

does anyone know how many people who matched at mount sinai did their RY at mt sinai?

all but 2, and one of the 2 is a phd

no, they matched 3 people who did not do their RY there

would definitely recommend the smaller, lower tier school that you're interested in matching at and this is coming from someone who did their RY at a top-tier program with many other research fellows

Anyone have thoughts on Mount Sinai RY (other than the internal bias for their RY candidates, are they decent output, good mentorship?)

imo one of the best RYs you can do. several of their RY students presented at AAD this year. your mentor will be a derm expert and if you work hard and get along with everyone you have a very good chance of matching there

imo one of the best RYs you can do. several of their RY students presented at AAD this year. your mentor will be a derm expert and if you work hard and get along with everyone you have a very good chance of matching there>> Presenting to AAD aint shit lmao the only benefit is that they have strong linkage to match internal.

Thoughts on doing a RY at Harvard?

srry unrelated but the incoming MS4 sinai students are goated rn they are super good presenters

There are some cutie academic gay dermatologists though (looking at you, Markus Boos)

agree, there should be a bare minimum level of professionality held by people representing the profession. Public trust in the health system and physicians has been eroded over the past 5yr and sorry to hurt everyones feelings, but people such as this are only further damaging that (can this)>> Yes Dr. Boos is the best! I'm talking more people like the sirdermzalot on IG and some of the other wanna be influencers on tik tok talking about sword swallowing in between their rants

a certain upcoming PGY2 resident is very cringe and borderline unprofessional about all the gay stuffs he posts...> I'm sorry but what's wrong with wearing a speedo? It's giving the whole discourse on female doctors wearing bikinis >sirdermzalot is the nicest and kindest person ever, leave him alone

i see nothing wrong with speedos and being yourself. a happy doctor = better care :)

but if a female resident/attending posts in a bikini.....>> No literally. Post whatever you want, but having a physician social media page with your cheeks and balls out in a speedo and posed naked with the blur APP is CRAZY work. Supposed to sit here and pretend its normal lol have some level of decorum. As a gay man it gives me second hand embarrassment bc it makes us look vapid and air headed, if a female physician were to do that she would get judged and canceled yet bc you're a guy that sleeps w other guys suddenly its ok? like what lmao