UC San Francisco-CA

UConn and BU

Iowa survey as well

UCSF

for normal track or research?

I haven't dick from UCSF and I gave those sloppy-Charlies a good, so maybe they think I'm fat, ugly, and stupid.

For Peds Derm track

not this being how i find out ucsf had a peds derm track

it's for people who already did a peds residency

research the current residents and see their CVs

Penn, Hopkins, Harvard, UCSF, Stanford, Duke, Mich, Northwestern, basically the top tier academic institutions

< what if you're a DO that's heavy on research? Consnsus is MD programs like more research. DO programs like higher scores/academics. < then im cooked < CWRC/UH hospitals is DO friendly and research heavy

specifically for UCSF, it's just that the volume is high so you're often leaving clinic around 5:30/6. Academic time is good (1-2 half days a week) and support is there. It's just the patients you're seeing are complicated and there are a lot of them

nah UCSF (2nd opinion: USC better vibes)

USC for sure

UCLA

UCSF

So for UCSF, we can signal silver if doing an away?

didn't geo signal, had no ties, got a couple of Cali interviews (but most of them I didn't get and this was noticeable compared to my interview rate in other regions). Likely valuable but strictly speaking not necessary

i think it depends stats? not sure tho

no they don't show preference

they do if you stand out (pre-chart, help residents etc)

I applied to like 15 schools and got 3>I only applied to 6 and I got 3 of them. I was also super selective with which programs I applied to

I applied to 20 places and got 4, accepted 3

applied to 8 schools, got 3, 1 rejection (UCSF LOL), withdrew from all others once I got the 3

applied to 8: 1 offer, 5 rejections, 2 pending (likely rejections)

I was also rejected from peds derm dates and ghosted on adult derm so far from UCSD

Feel like it depends on all of the other factors of your application (Step score, mentors/letters, med school prestige, etc.) ofc having all honors and lots of research would be better than either so it's hard to compare those scenarios without looking at everything else

>the neurotic 270+ step 2, all honors, 20+ research derm applicant is few and far between. Believe in yourself - not all applicants are perfect. theyre average :). Aim for as many honors as you feasibly can, handful of pubs, show people you're likeable. that'll take you farther than grades and research at the end of the day

connections

does med school prestige really matter if youre not planning on going to a t10 derm program? (in terms of MD applicants)

i'd rather have a well balanced app w some honors and some pubs, than all honors 0 pubs but thats me

med school prestige is factored more for certain programs (defintely lower on the list in terms of factors assessed), agree about having a more well-rounded app

personality and fit is huge

is a 270+ strong research applicant really few and far between lol it seems like this is not uncommon?

I've heard of quite a few people with these stats, I think it's also important to consider mentors and who you know since that can influence one's chances of matching

agreed, and connections from away rotations make a huge difference in terms of "networking" as well. the loudest ones are the ones that have the best stats, but dont get into your head about it! > more good thoughts like this please, maybe we're all just delusional

also want to say, I feel on reddit and these spreadsheets, we tend to see people on the extremes in terms of stats and research while the "average" students who match tend to not put a bunch of stuff here making it seem like applicants are extraordinary

scores in 95% of cases, excluding the "top" programs which virtue signal about evaluating applicants holistically (looking at u UCSF). It's hilarious how they say they don't have cutoffs for board scores, but they magically end up matching residents with only the most insane stats >how do you know this info? They don't release stats publically, and UCSF seems to match many students who dont come from T5 programs.

Current R3/R4s come from: UCSD, UC Davis, UMich, UCSF, Hopkins, Emory, UCSF, Vandy, Northwestern, UCSF, Hopkins, UCSF, Penn. Idk seems pretty high ranking for programs (excluding the California bias)

You can also see what they tell their own students about required stats for matching (https://meded.ucsf.edu/student-services/specialty-information-and-advising#Dermatology), for example in their table "How important is each the following for admission to a competitive program?", where honors, AOA, and research are highly recommended

bro they went 10/13 this year at crazy institutions. yeah their derm deparment is weaker but they matched incredibly well. also hopkins r

Two people in T5s, two more in T10s...pretty solid if u ask me

Also, people have higher priorities than matching at the “top” programs. Who wants to go to Harvard work-horse and live in miserable Boston

Bruh, in what world is UCSF, Northwestern, UCSD, NYU, Southwestern not impressive. I also think it’s impressive that everyone was able to match at other institutions besides Hopkins. It’s prob more impressive than say, CWRU where a bunch of internals stayed

Plus being able to match at some of these CA / NYC programs without aways, crackedd

Lmao Hopkins really catching strays this cycle

bro they went 10/12 this year at crazy institutions. yeah their derm deparment is weaker but they matched incredibly well. also hopkins r

Agreed, some folks want to prioritize happiness

prestige and there's nothing wrong with that. Also matching 10 people from a single institution is a huge accomplishment.

Agree, CWRU tends to just match their internals

Hopkins as a med school is very good so the name prob carries despite the derm dpt being not as strong >Also, people have higher priorities than matching at the “top” programs. Who wants to go to Harvard work-horse and live in miserable Boston

Agreed, some folks want to prioritize happiness over prestige and there's nothing wrong with that. Also matching 10 people from a single institution is a huge accomplishment.

some ppl like boston tho

Bring it back plz

It was mostly positive toward Hopkins, idk why they would be the ones to delete it

what is the tea about them

there's no tea, it was actually just a bunch of people defending Hopkins. idk why someone was so pressed to delete it

[COPIED FROM PRIOR VERS] Is it just me or do Hopkins students not match all that well compared to other peer schools?

bro they went 10/12 this year at crazy institutions. yeah their derm deparment is weaker but they matched incredibly well. also hopkins r

Two people in T5s, two more in T10s...pretty solid if u ask me

Hopkins as a med school is very good so the name prob carries despite the derm dpt being not as strong >Also, people have higher priorities than matching at the “top” programs. Who wants to go to Harvard work-horse and live in miserable Boston

Agreed, some folks want to prioritize happiness over prestige and there's nothing wrong with that. Also matching 10 people from a single institution is a huge accomplishment.

some ppl like boston tho

[COPIED FROM PRIOR VERS] Bruh, in what world is UCSF, Northwestern, UCSD, NYU, Southwestern not impressive. I also think it’s impressive that everyone was able to match at other institutions besides Hopkins. It’s prob more impressive than say, CWRU where a bunch of internals stayed

Agree, CWRU tends to just match their internals

Plus being able to match at some of these CA / NYC programs without aways, crackedd

lmfao @ wakeforest

did not know WF was such a golden program

im still not over the wake forest rejection >:( yeah i'm pretty sure markdown syntax doesn't render properly in google sheets. ugh not more gpt jokes , oh no chatgpt is back in the chat 🙄 >> There is zero vibes in Miami , a bunch of ego inflated attendings and weirdo residents that do not fit the extroverted / Miami energy of the city whatsoever.

do the residents at davis have hobbies?? lol and i do agree with the mohs factory being mayo

hated every second of reading this

im still not over the wake forest rejection >:( yeah i'm pretty sure markdown syntax doesn't render properly in google sheets. ugh not more gpt jokes , oh no chatgpt is back in the chat 🙄 >>

oop. i think there was a lot of misinformation floating around at the same time OP

there was just like one person who believed dogmatically that RTM calls don't exist. perseveration?

Too many people believe PD words and PD "rules". RTM calls happen and anyone who says they GUARANTEE they don't do it is full of themselves. For next cycle of applicant, they happen obviously

I heard firsthand from close friends who got RTM calls

I think people are just trying to cope, but also it's not helpful to insist on misinformation when people did get RTM calls (granted it seems like a small minority)

my own personal friend got an RTM call from a place that somebody on this spreadsheet said "they guarantee they do not do RTM calls".

just name the program lol

I got a call from a PD +all of the APDs on a group call who "definitely don't do them" according to this sheed

PENN.

penn was PD + chiefs, not PD + apds tho so must have been somewhere else rip

also all this being said, i received NO call from any program and i matched!!! i think the general attitude was that obviously RTM calls happen but to a minority of people and it's not necessary to match!

not necessary to match but necessary to match AT the program doing RTM?

penn was PD + chiefs, not PD + apds tho so must have been somewhere else...USCF??

UCSF ?

i also received no call and matched

penn was PD + chiefs, not PD + apds tho so must have been somewhere else...