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UCSF

San Francisco, CA

NRMP
1062080R0 / 1062080A0
ACGME
0800521019

Applicant sentiment — from 150 anonymous posts, 2016–2027

5.5 / 10

What anonymous posters said

Anonymous posters frequently discussed the interview process, including timing of invite calls, rejections, and Step 2 score requirements before rank lists. Several commenters described the program as highly regarded for clinical training and subspecialty exposure, though opinions on workload and culture varied, with some calling it demanding and others disputing negative characterizations. Multiple posts noted few internal candidates remain for residency and suggested California ties may be helpful in admissions.

AI-generated summary of opinions expressed in anonymous, unverified posts. It describes what posters wrote, not verified facts about this program. Based on these 150 posts · Updated Aug 2026 · Contest or respond to this entry · Takedown & right of reply

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Fame & Shame

2026-2027 Derm

3 entries

❌1. Elitist (to no one's surprise), and many faculty give preferential treatment to rotating medical students from more prestigious schools. As much as they emphasize being socially attuned and progressive, at the end of the day, they're just another ivory tower institution masquerading as a social justice warrior.

❌1. You don't actually HAVE to be a former pediatrician to apply for this and be considered. Wish I knew this earlier, I would have applied.

❌2. Interviewer made disparaging comments about where I went to school

2025–2026 Derm

4 entries

❌1. You don't actually HAVE to be a former pediatrician to apply for this and be considered. Wish I knew this earlier, I would have applied.

❌1. Elitist (to no one's surprise), and many faculty give preferential treatment to rotating medical students from more prestigious schools. As much as they emphasize being socially attuned and progressive, at the end of the day, they're just another ivory tower institution masquerading as a social justice warrior.

❌2. Interviewer made disparaging comments about where I went to school

💬1. It does say on their website "preferred but not required;" I wonder if they've taken applicants w/o previous peds residency. > guess we will find out soon > this is the first year of the track and it seemed like everybody was an MS4 during the interview +1

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i don't get why people are mad. just wait one cycle and things will go back to normal. look at emory. we actually had a bet they won't match a black resident this time given how many they did last time lol they said too many negros lol

#41292021-2022 DermMar 21

right!! they def overcorrected lol

Mar 21
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ok right SO disappointing

Mar 21
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...there is literally a black guy lol < There is no black guy, just a black girl < who is the black guy? https://twitter.com/EmoryDerm/status/1504948910271434765/photo/1 <hes not black lol < he is for sure black. What a stupid take < its still a diverse class half are not white

Mar 21
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but this happened last cycle too lol < because derm was really white. now it isn't or at least it is less so. i wonder if derm is still the second least diverse specialty after the last two cycles. < 0 chance of that lol urms have taken over... < you are so dramatic

Mar 21
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fr. im sure there is a conversation going in in harvard now about when it will be politically correct to go back to taking no black people. Hahahahaha < the funny part is many urms don't even apply to these programs because for a host of reasons we are just not tryna go to places like this so reading all this, i can't help laughing because people are really fighting with imaginary competition from urms >literally imaginary. & ppl are conceding to the fact that they saw the same URMs at these top interviews but somehow its a slew of URMs with unfair advantages. I am sure top programs recycled the same ORM applicants as well < that is another funny part. there is a reason why if nyu and ucsf match black residents, then penn and harvard don't and vice versa. its because they same people applied to them all...all 10 of them of which 6 got interviews. so if some get, others are sorry out of luck because that is it but sure y'all should keep going. < this is actually important because it gets at the point people here are missing because they are so focused on being mad. your competition is mid tier programs. for one, there is more of them and can really affect the orm match rate but also these are the programs urms are applying to but no, lets focus on harvard < just look at stanford

Mar 21
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Really striking how few white people were matched at the top programs this year (not a complaint, but it's VERY noticable...). I'm glad that programs are buying into SOC but worry about it being superficial/not nuanced tbh, just looking at the top programs that are especially virtue signal-y. < I strongly agree with this, and it's noticable that the same 5-10 URMs were at all the top interviews. < where was this take when harvard was taking mostly white people? was boston mostly white then? until last year, harvard embarassingly had the same black resident hosting diversity events with her horrendous internet but still had to be her as no one else to take her place. Do you think if we go back a few years to past spreadsheets, we will see this be a problem? even if harvard takes all black students for the next ten years, i would still not balance out. go somewhere else.

#41052021-2022 DermMar 21

YES..... like that harvard match list props to y'all but chile boston ain't 33% black (nobody come for me props to these people i'm sure they all deserve it) < yeah... theyve taken 2 white people in the last two years total < so is this only a problem for y'all with top schools? because tons of schools have no urm student at all but no one is pointing out how very white many derm programs still are < it's not just harvard, but it's a great example of what's happening now. while well intentioned, the "overcorrection" bias is really, really starkly obvious. Harvard Derm goes from having almost NO black residents to "taking 2 white people in the last two years." < good. they were excessively taking white people and no one said boo. maybe now they are at a point where that is sustainable as a program but it is like this for them compared to ucsf because they were very white/asian so of course it looks so stark

Mar 21
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It introduces a risk of topical or superficial selection of residents. < when it doesn't benefit white people (or white people no longer have the upper hand), all of a sudden it goes from silence and giggling to stop, stop!! https://twitter.com/Willbsuccessful/status/1367911933467385860 < I like how race hustlers like yourself consider Asians to be white.

Mar 21
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because the goal is to get the residency to be representative not any one class < Racial quotas please can we just do it already> white applicants make up like 55% of med grads, it's normal for them to take a larger percentage. Not taking any isn't the answer and neither is taking too many. There is a literal percentage you can look at here

Mar 21
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are derm applicants generally insecure about their IV? everything here always skews super top heavy. look at the rol. it is no fun if it is all penn and ucsf

#39982021-2022 DermMar 21
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Can you be a pure clinical professor of Derm within a top academic program (e.g., Harvard, UCSF, Stanford, etc.)? I am referring to a position with minimal research responsibilities. If so, how difficult are these positions to acquire after residency if one comes from a mid-tier residency program? Assume I don't care about money and am willing to make well-below market salary (e.g., 100k). I know that academics is less attractive (because of $$$) but I would imagine that jobs at top tier programs are still hard to get. < pretty easy, not many people are willing to take that big of a salary cut

#38082021-2022 DermMar 21
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Did anyone get RTM (direct or via mentor) from Harvard, UCSF, Penn, NYU or Stanford (officially or unofficially)? Don't need to say which one but just any of them at all? < got it from 3 of them. <Lol I already know 3 that explicity said they won't do RTM < i would say they were unofficial, individuals can be acting outside of the policy of the department as a whole

#37252021-2022 DermMar 21
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how positive are we that UCSF is taking 5 clinical and 2 research? Also Yale is now 6 instead of 4-5? < 100% positive because of NRMP website

#37232021-2022 DermMar 21
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any calls from Penn? < co-ask, from harvard, ucsf, stanford, nyu, nw, emory,utsw etc ? lolll < yes for two of those but they contacted my mentor not me lol<also got 1 of these but contacted mentor not me < Harvard literally sent out an email last week saying they aren't doing RTM calls. < i mean, not doing rtm is means not contacting you as a student. they (programs) who say not rtm may still contact your mentors to vet you as someone else whose mentor was contacted from a no rtm program < that's not what OP was asking about

#34862021-2022 DermMar 21
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best research fellowships/mentors? < For medical students or for MD only research fellowships? < i would love to head about the successful MD only research fellowships for people who didnt match the first time.... is it like sinai, NW, UCSF, UCD? < Mt. Sinai is probably best to match at Sinai. UCSF and NW would help best to match at other places not necessarily at UCSF and NW. < what about miami, or wu's fellowship? < i am looking at wu's page and he says all of his fellows have published 10 reviews and retrospective studies which sounds like torture but they have a good track record of matching medical students at least. doesnt look like as many MD fellows. < Jashin Wu used to be at Kaiser Perm Derm when that program started new but I don't think he's with them anymore. It looks like he mainly takes students now to help do his research. Likely unpaid. < oh ew, not doing anything unpaid ever again < If you do a research fellowship post MD those are almost always paid because you have something valuable you can get after USMLE Step 3 completion and internship completion: a full medical license < thank goodnessy

#32342021-2022 DermMar 21
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how do you guys know ucsf dermpath makes 3 mil? << All UC salaries are online: https://ucannualwage.ucop.edu/wage/ (see snapshot to the right)

#31822021-2022 DermMar 21
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Is anyone familiar with maternal/paternal leave benefits of different programs. Are they all the same for every program? < of course they're not; you have to ask individually <I just remembered UCSF had a great benefit on that front, 6 or 8 weeks for both parternity/maternity leave

#31142021-2022 DermMar 21
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Any thoughts on UCSF vs Penn vs Stanford vs NYU? NYU - Residents seem kind of stressed out but they obviously get incredible breadth in their training. UCSF - similar breadth as NYU, not as busy but also maybe more resident support and QoL (especially with financial assistance NYU doesn't get)? Stanford - also seems pretty great in terms of QoL, great subspecialty training, more chill than NYU/UCSF? Penn - low cost of living, seems like residents are happy and supported there? I'm not really sure what are the specifics that make it so amazing like everyone says since their interview day wasn't focused on selling themselves. But I'm kind of torn. Any advice here?

#30872021-2022 DermMar 21
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Anyone else having a hard time on ranking UCSF and Penn? The only big differentiator I can think of is location, otherwise, they're both really amazing. I keep going back and forth.

#30842021-2022 DermMar 21
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mods can we get a T10 tab so we don't annoy everyone with the incoming harvard vs ucsf vs penn vs nyu rows in the next month < For real, I'm struggling with ranking those 4 and there's like 9 other people in the same situation and I get how it can be annoying discussing "1st world problems" < Same < just make one yourself, why do you need the mods to make it

#30812021-2022 DermMar 21
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do we have any confirmation/inside info of how many harvard is taking this year? i know they vary every year and looks like a lot of people (me included) are ranking them #1 < harvard rank tally has been tampered, if you check edit history you'll know how < has anyone on here decided to not rank harvard #1? <yes < why < coz ppl like SF or NYC better < I'm guessing people are choosing Penn & UCSF over Harvard d/t better mentorship, QoL, lower COL (Penn), less in-patient, housing stipend (UCSF), and moonlighting opportunities.

#30792021-2022 DermMar 21
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"what do people think of the doximity rankings? are they useful at all? << Depends what your criteria are for filtering through programs. < at one point I thought they had actual criteria for the rankings, but apparently it's just alumni opinion? Or am I reading that wrong? Seems like a less than objective way to rank < It's all based on opinion. In the past, there have been a few publications that have attempted to rank programs based on NIH funding, faculty, residents, research output, etc (https://cdn.mdedge.com/files/s3fs-public/Document/September-2017/CT094100189_REV.pdf) but this is outdated now. From what I've been told, you've got the big powerhouses (NYU, Penn, UCSF, Harvard, Yale, Stanford), the great but not quite top programs (Emory, Northwestern, Sinai, Wake Forest, Johns Hopkins, Miami, UTSW), a bunch of solid programs that aren't particularly famous for research or anything but will still train you well and prepare you for a career, and then a few bottom tier programs that have been known to have issues (ie flagged by ACGME, residents don't match to fellowships, program closes midway through a year, etc) < is there anything more recent?"

#30302021-2022 DermMar 21

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