Hosp of the Univ of PA (Dermatology/3 yr)

I was refreshing for the email and then realized I didn’t even apply to Penn. I'm simply in a fever dream

I heard I'm interviewing for Community Engagem

when did you find out

It was included in my invite letter

my invite letter also specified research track

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hi this is the super secret message board, if anyone sees this I will come check periodically and reply (12/3) <12/15

im going to email the program coordinators and ask them the latest time i can cancel

giving it another week or two, although I have low hopes since I haven't heard from anyone so far

I had to call program coordinators (Cornell, Penn) to get responses and both said they don't do swaps even if you have someone willin :/

how close to interviews are people thinking of dropping then for conflicts or are we just reaching out to PCs to see per program?

reaching out per program

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why assume that people who are smart/well accomplished are autistic

based on this spreadsheet behavior, they are

what's wrong with being autistic lol

Derm departments can't keep subsidizing the amount of model trains it takes to keep wellness high

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I heard 2x seats. So if they have 4 seats, they will get to like #8 on their list. Of course more elite programs may only reach the number of seats. Like all top 4 will fill the 4 seats since the program is highly desired.

Highly doubt it is this high on their lists except very desirable programs. If they only went 2x their seats they wouldn't be interviewing 10x their seats. Safe bet is halfway down their rank list so if they interview 40 for 4 spots I'd bet they usually end up in the 15-20 range

does anyone actually know where like a mid-tier program typically lands

Am I screwed if I'm only interviewing at T10 programs then

I heard a place interview 40 and last year they went down to #7. From a scribe. Guess the program.

Penn

UConn

lol if it's from a scribe it's definitely UCONN!!! they gossip so much

hard to say because many mid-tier programs rank mid-tier med school appliciants higher and they likely have interviews at only those types of programs - I would say it is similar

totally agree with this. One place I've heard that interviews like 50-60 usually drops to halfway down that list. But 100% agree that mid-tier places often rank by who they think would rank them high> I''m at a mid tier and we match our top 10-15. Being mid tier doesnt make it any less competitive, it just means it's a different pool of people who are a good fit

I didn't directly but will be interviewing with them on same day for Penn peds track

wait they told you this already in that email that you were sent with the invite? bc I also applied peds track and it didn't specify

interview invite email specified peds derm track

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Hopkins derm is fine and great education - splitting hairs at this point tbh.

Rankings are basically equivalent to research funding amounts so they probably have less derm research relative to the others

how are the research opportunities for hopkins med students?

Shhhh no one let them in on the Hopkins and Baltimore charm, keep out the competition < < Hopkins is a gem

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cackling

shits cold af here (northeast)

you should go outside instead of deleting someone else's words to silence them thnx

weirdos

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> honestly don't know, I picked Penn because of its name and ranking and defintely thought there would be more support for students interested in derm. Seems like HMS also isn't that supportive based on what's written below so idk what "top" schools support students interested in derm

I will say that coming from a top school that isn't supportive can hurt you because if you reach out to other programs for research opportunities they will say that "Penn has an amazing dept work with them" and then we are also told not to do aways as it will hurt our institution name (prob because they think we will underperform)

that's crazy, any other top schools telling their students not to do aways? do you guys tend to match good anyway?

we do match well but I think it's because there's a ton of us - like we have double digit derm matches but also a ton don't match - lots of us are told to extend graduation as we are reapplying as med students rather than residents - also doesn't hurt the match rate that way lol - some of the ppl here come in with crazy good connections and exisiting research PIs, it's the reality of going to a top school, lots of competition and not enough opportunities despite there being already so many because too much interest. I have friends at HMS that also have been advised not to do aways prob the same for the T10

duke specifically advises their students to do 2 aways (smart advisors) (actually that's new, and primarily student driven bc they've had consecutive years of students not matching)> yale also advised us not to do aways

coming from a T10 also hurts when applying to mid-tier/lower-tier/community programs because they think that you won't come there (when some of us only have interviews at these programs)

so true, coming from another T10 school here and people are not getting high numbers of interviews here despite being outstanding candidates in every respect, just think that a ton of programs assume we'll go to another top program so the mid/low tier programs are incredibly low yield. also not advised to do aways

similar to the penn story, i won't say what school but also T10? when i reached out to other programs, they were like oh you go to X school, work with them, they are your best bet!

ikr how many ii are you at? did your home offer you an interview?> i'm at 7II but I did 3 aways + home and networked! despite that one program telling me off. shouldve just left that program alone but i still applied and gave them a gold lol CLOWN move!

bigger clown move is complaining when you have 7 interviews. Go prep?

#cope! never complained. simply giving more insight into how top schools can "affect" you

my sister (applying med school rn) also wants to do derm, do i tell her Penn is not the place for derm? Had no idea Penn was like that. She interviewed there and it is her first choice.

I applied and received an II but the invite didn't specify the tracks

did you apply to mulitple tracks?

yeah gen+peds

thanks for the info! and congrats on your ii!

got II to peds track which was mentioned in invite

i think we're toast

They're the top program in the country and they are known for not interviewing rotators…truly what were you expecting

i don't think anyone is expecting anything, but if you rotate at a program i imagine your hopes are increased

no need to be a dick

I think they're all out, I got one for 1/22 (the last interview date I think) over an hour ago

Seems like emails have gone out as early as ~1pm ET and as late as ~1:50pm ET so

Got one after 2 EST! Definitely individualized

PSTP Penn received at 2:20 EST