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Any thoughts on Harvard vs Stanford? Can't decide < use the X vs Y tab < low traffic plus interviews are dying down so it's all going to be X vs Y chat

mods can we get a T10 tab so we don't annoy everyone with the incoming harvard vs ucsf vs penn vs nyu rows in the next month < For real, I'm struggling with ranking those 4 and there's like 9 other people in the same situation and I get how it can be annoying discussing "1st world problems" < Same < just make one yourself, why do you need the mods to make it

do we have any confirmation/inside info of how many harvard is taking this year? i know they vary every year and looks like a lot of people (me included) are ranking them #1 < harvard rank tally has been tampered, if you check edit history you'll know how < has anyone on here decided to not rank harvard #1? <yes < why < coz ppl like SF or NYC better < I'm guessing people are choosing Penn & UCSF over Harvard d/t better mentorship, QoL, lower COL (Penn), less in-patient, housing stipend (UCSF), and moonlighting opportunities.

"what do people think of the doximity rankings? are they useful at all? << Depends what your criteria are for filtering through programs. < at one point I thought they had actual criteria for the rankings, but apparently it's just alumni opinion? Or am I reading that wrong? Seems like a less than objective way to rank < It's all based on opinion. In the past, there have been a few publications that have attempted to rank programs based on NIH funding, faculty, residents, research output, etc (https://cdn.mdedge.com/files/s3fs-public/Document/September-2017/CT094100189_REV.pdf) but this is outdated now. From what I've been told, you've got the big powerhouses (NYU, Penn, UCSF, Harvard, Yale, Stanford), the great but not quite top programs (Emory, Northwestern, Sinai, Wake Forest, Johns Hopkins, Miami, UTSW), a bunch of solid programs that aren't particularly famous for research or anything but will still train you well and prepare you for a career, and then a few bottom tier programs that have been known to have issues (ie flagged by ACGME, residents don't match to fellowships, program closes midway through a year, etc) < is there anything more recent?"

remember all the unnecessary hate against top 5 med school students earlier in the cycle? how were they on the trail in the end < what hate < search for harvard and similar schools from earlier in the chat, people were saying they were 'stealing all their interviews' lol < that sounds like hate towards the process not the students, the student's can't help it and honestly good for them x 2

Do programs have quotas for non-home students? There are so many competitive Penn, HMS, & Yale students applying this cycle that each of those programs could easily fill their residency spots with home students. < I see 4-5 HMS applicants from one of my interviews ehhh. I think some programs defintely love having them or ranking them high < especially when the faculty are alumns themselves < penn has an internal student quota of 2-3 < who are the same 4-5 HMS applicants?? < The same 5 at the Harvard interview < they nice?

Who are top faculty at Harvard? No website for whole program trying to figure out who the main people are. Do residents work with them?

Lol at the trolls filling in rankings for harvard and UCSF as 7-10. Like anyone would believe that. < lol at academia simps not being able to comprehend people can have different priorities

THE RANK TALLY LIST IS CURRENTLY BEING SABATOGED! I JUST WATCHED THE SAME PERSON PUT A BUNCH OF NUMBERS UNDER HARVARD AND NORTHWESTERN AND OTHER PROGRAMS!!!< they are on a spree! < what benefit do these trolls get from fucking things up.<living in my head lol < so sad < WHERE IS OUR MOD????

which programs have been the most surprisingly disappointing for you? I expected to like UW a lot more than I do but they fell flat for me < UW is just not that great of a program.< I sent my token there because I really like Seattle. Obviously it did not workout < Harvard's interview day was dissapointing!

just saw a conversation on the x vs y sheet I actually want to continue here because i want to hear more about how other urm students see it. I am black and I personally will not train in a program with zero to one black resident no matter how many black faculty they have; in fact if you have super star derm faculty like Penn/Harvard does or a lot of black/urm faculty like UTSW and no black resident or one black resident is is more of a red flag to me than if you had none because either the program is so toxic they gatekeep black students, or the black faculty are enjoying being the only ones that they are not helping recruit more or they are just waiting to someone else trains us and then you hire us because so few people want to do academia. Yes I know diversity is not only in the number of black residents but that is what this post is about and i was wondering how other urm students see/analyze this.

Did Stanford, Harvard, and Penn peeps send thank yous or questions to interviewers? what is standard? < Stop sending this shit to people. Makes it weird for the rest of us and doesn't affect your chances in the slightest. You should be thanking them during your interview and that's enough x2000

im an m3 lurker on here and been seeing comments from people who were disappointed they didnt get an interview from harvard or penn whent they thought they had a good shot. do you guys have any post-application clarity or thoughts about why you may not have? i understand a lot of this is random and stochastic but would really appreciate anyone has any advice for a future applicant. // Anyone who automatically expects a derm interview at top tier derm programs like Harvard or Penn due to having high board scores, high class rank w/Honors on every required rotation, and a few publications is probably not operating much in realistic expectations to begin with.

The CEO of harvard just called me and said, we loved your application and we want you to not only join our class this year, but I would like to offer you the job of program directer. I am not ashamed to admit, that I accpeted theyre offer right here on the spot. I am literally shaking right now < that's a coincidence cause the Harvard board of trustees just called me and made me president and told me my first task is to find a new derm PD, also shaking <lmaooo

How do other programs like Harvard/NYU justify their COL and lack of resident financial support when Stanford is literally throwing cash at you < DREAM Program < harvard is prob the worst program in terms of salary/COL ratio < Simple: People come to Harvard and NYU for the name. < by cosigning your rent lease with you and because rent is only that high close to the hospital and NYU definitely has support because union