Mass General Brigham-MA

general consensus regarding what?> regarding the research fellow position. Is it worth it? does it have good match outcomes, is PI toxic etc> There are several PI's at MGH. theres not just one research fellow position.

yes im aware just giving general ideas of the answer im looking for

you want specific answers to nonspecific questions> Many people have asked similar questions youre being intelligent WEIRD. I was asking for overall opinions and what people know about their research fellow positions not necessarily looking for answers to specific questions

OP asked a valid question why are they getting slack?

Other dude has a point, hard question to answer. >Hard to generalize, but I think its safe to assume that boston is expensive, and RYs are never paid that well. Also because there's so many PIs, its well known the MGH RYs don't help that much in matching Harvard, but the research itself could be very impactful

Are HMS not allowed to do aways?

I'm so sorry and I'm surprirsed the HMS name didn't garner you some :/ you're clearly qualified

OP here, PD and faculty tell us not to do aways on purpose as they can "only hurt you"...

I personally was told to do as many aways as the limit because I was a "good clinical rotator". They told the other person applying with me not to.

are u also HMS?

can confirm top programs tell their students not to do aways because 'it can only hurt them,' but i think they are realizing the game changed this year and will likely sing another song next year

How many II do you have HMSer

theyve said 0

oops> is OP the same as the HMS person below

why do you feel like being at HMS is a con op?

What is HMS

I mean HMS is lowkey trash. Name can only go so far, hard work matters more!

POOP

harvard

for what it's worth i was told not to do aways by a mentor who primarily worked on research w/ me and then told to do aways by res/attendings i rotated with because it would be a good way for me to stand out to programs. so i would get multiple opinions from people before deciding not to do aways

so like what changed this year?? as an aside I think the faculty are getting tired of applicants just putting pediatric derm and wanting to work with underserved communities and not actually wanting to do that in the future. so if you're planning on putting those two to stand out, don't unless you actually strongly are passionate

HMS toxic

why is hms toxic

i mean OP clearly worked hard lol

I'd argue it's not toxic, faculty just assume students at "elite" schools don't need as much guidance and we'll figure it out ourselves which is not necessarily true lol

BIDMC is probably the hardest one, you only get 2 - 4 weeks of elective, otherwise you are a medicine categorical. I think BWH and MGH are better built preliminary programs overall.

bro they went 10/13 this year at crazy institutions. yeah their derm deparment is weaker but they matched incredibly well. also hopkins r

Two people in T5s, two more in T10s...pretty solid if u ask me

Also, people have higher priorities than matching at the “top” programs. Who wants to go to Harvard work-horse and live in miserable Boston

Bruh, in what world is UCSF, Northwestern, UCSD, NYU, Southwestern not impressive. I also think it’s impressive that everyone was able to match at other institutions besides Hopkins. It’s prob more impressive than say, CWRU where a bunch of internals stayed

Plus being able to match at some of these CA / NYC programs without aways, crackedd

Lmao Hopkins really catching strays this cycle

bro they went 10/12 this year at crazy institutions. yeah their derm deparment is weaker but they matched incredibly well. also hopkins r

Agreed, some folks want to prioritize happiness

prestige and there's nothing wrong with that. Also matching 10 people from a single institution is a huge accomplishment.

Agree, CWRU tends to just match their internals

Hopkins as a med school is very good so the name prob carries despite the derm dpt being not as strong >Also, people have higher priorities than matching at the “top” programs. Who wants to go to Harvard work-horse and live in miserable Boston

Agreed, some folks want to prioritize happiness over prestige and there's nothing wrong with that. Also matching 10 people from a single institution is a huge accomplishment.

some ppl like boston tho

how so

different than i expected

in what way?

did the "harvard 30" lore hold up this year?

Harvard 30? what do you mean?

what?

Right stop the vaguepost lol

Right stop the vaguepost lol> it seemed brutal this year, people went unmatched I would have never guessed

some people i know with exceptional applications fell further on their lists than i would have thought

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in a similar vein, does anyone know how WashU did this year? it looks like they only matched 2. anyone know how many internals? (spreadsheet says 6))

Bring it back plz

It was mostly positive toward Hopkins, idk why they would be the ones to delete it

what is the tea about them

there's no tea, it was actually just a bunch of people defending Hopkins. idk why someone was so pressed to delete it

[COPIED FROM PRIOR VERS] Is it just me or do Hopkins students not match all that well compared to other peer schools?

bro they went 10/12 this year at crazy institutions. yeah their derm deparment is weaker but they matched incredibly well. also hopkins r

Two people in T5s, two more in T10s...pretty solid if u ask me

Hopkins as a med school is very good so the name prob carries despite the derm dpt being not as strong >Also, people have higher priorities than matching at the “top” programs. Who wants to go to Harvard work-horse and live in miserable Boston

Agreed, some folks want to prioritize happiness over prestige and there's nothing wrong with that. Also matching 10 people from a single institution is a huge accomplishment.

some ppl like boston tho

[COPIED FROM PRIOR VERS] Bruh, in what world is UCSF, Northwestern, UCSD, NYU, Southwestern not impressive. I also think it’s impressive that everyone was able to match at other institutions besides Hopkins. It’s prob more impressive than say, CWRU where a bunch of internals stayed

Agree, CWRU tends to just match their internals

Plus being able to match at some of these CA / NYC programs without aways, crackedd

lmfao @ wakeforest

did not know WF was such a golden program

im still not over the wake forest rejection >:( yeah i'm pretty sure markdown syntax doesn't render properly in google sheets. ugh not more gpt jokes , oh no chatgpt is back in the chat 🙄 >> There is zero vibes in Miami , a bunch of ego inflated attendings and weirdo residents that do not fit the extroverted / Miami energy of the city whatsoever.

do the residents at davis have hobbies?? lol and i do agree with the mohs factory being mayo

hated every second of reading this

im still not over the wake forest rejection >:( yeah i'm pretty sure markdown syntax doesn't render properly in google sheets. ugh not more gpt jokes , oh no chatgpt is back in the chat 🙄 >>

Yes a Harvard resident got $25K. It's like Jeopardy run by Muneeb Shah

dang so the jeopardy during the interview social was recruitment for their aad jeopardy team huh

So the resident won $25,000 !? It wasnt like grant money for the residency or something like that?

yeah personal money, resident at brown got 2nd and got $15,000

Jeez!!!!

why

bc i want to weigh my options before applying

you apply based on ties, connections, and location pref. Otherwise, everything else is basically RNG. Godspeed if you're aiming for T5

thank you, but connections and RNG aside, and im willing to move anywhere, are they created equal or is one going to give an edge? not trying to be a snob or anything. just want genuine info for life changing career decisions

Don't love the way the question was framed about which t5 is the "worst" - they are all great for different reasons (as are non T5 programs). Harvard is great for inpatient and complex med-derm along with network; less ideal for QoL. UCSF is great for clinical volume, location, mentorship; less ideal for QoL, exploring non-clinical interests given the more busy schedule/various sites. Penn is a good balance of clinical training, research, QoL but def leans much more academic and location is not for everyone. NYU is great for clinical volume, procedural derm, network, research; less ideal for those who aren't into NYC and its pace. Stanford is great for research, innovation, kind faculty; less ideal for Mohs, clinical volume/diversity. Just a few thougts, but again. Matching derm anywhere is a huge accomplishment - don't focus too much on the rankings, focus on the personal fit for you.

someone who thinks they're better than any of the T5s is about to get a rude awakening lol

How many people got calls from UCSF?

nobody

what about USC and UCSD??

Harvard does not do RTM calls they are very strict about comms with applicants and try to be fair to everyone across the board

good to know we love to see it

who is the PI? Harvard almost never matches its own fellows

there is multiple but Dr. Daniela Kroshinsky and Drs. Kimball/Porter I think

kroshinsky is no longer at harvard

they're oversaturated and no one really matches at Harvard

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I hope RYs fall out of favor. I think derm is going to get saturated with a lot of nonsense articles

agreed, RY helped a lot of weak applicants match this year. There should be less weight on it

Easier said for people with a derm home program

agree with the previous poster that the field is getting totally saturated with dumb papers and it's going to make it harder to wade through to find the research that matters and it's so financially irresponsible not to mention wasteful of resources and people's time and energy. we also need to stop publishing case reports/series of low value. Most of the time these things are not adding value, every now and then you have a case that really stands out and warrants it. We need to stop presenting poorly done or low sample size research at conferences and having people spend so much money to attend conferences to showcase a poster that costs resources and money to print and transport. Bad for the environment and such nonsense. Normalize virtual conferences and stop flying around for these dumb reasons. If you're an attending or resident reading, stop writing off your vacation as a conference you take your family to, think about what you're doing and get a life to find meaningful ways to connect with people and make friends outside of conferences

THEY ARE FALLING OUT OF FAVOR. Normalize attending information sessions/actually doing your research on programs. some of yall literally just choose not to stay up to date

Shouting doesn't make it true. They aren't falliing out of favor, whether that suits your wishes or not. And maybe consider taking some time off from this spreadsheet and repeating the same thing day after day.