Hosp of the Univ of PA (Dermatology/3 yr)

right!! they def overcorrected lol

ok right SO disappointing

...there is literally a black guy lol < There is no black guy, just a black girl < who is the black guy? https://twitter.com/EmoryDerm/status/1504948910271434765/photo/1 <hes not black lol < he is for sure black. What a stupid take < its still a diverse class half are not white

but this happened last cycle too lol < because derm was really white. now it isn't or at least it is less so. i wonder if derm is still the second least diverse specialty after the last two cycles. < 0 chance of that lol urms have taken over... < you are so dramatic

fr. im sure there is a conversation going in in harvard now about when it will be politically correct to go back to taking no black people. Hahahahaha < the funny part is many urms don't even apply to these programs because for a host of reasons we are just not tryna go to places like this so reading all this, i can't help laughing because people are really fighting with imaginary competition from urms >literally imaginary. & ppl are conceding to the fact that they saw the same URMs at these top interviews but somehow its a slew of URMs with unfair advantages. I am sure top programs recycled the same ORM applicants as well < that is another funny part. there is a reason why if nyu and ucsf match black residents, then penn and harvard don't and vice versa. its because they same people applied to them all...all 10 of them of which 6 got interviews. so if some get, others are sorry out of luck because that is it but sure y'all should keep going. < this is actually important because it gets at the point people here are missing because they are so focused on being mad. your competition is mid tier programs. for one, there is more of them and can really affect the orm match rate but also these are the programs urms are applying to but no, lets focus on harvard < just look at stanford

and with that one has to be prepared for responses from all sides> yeah! we shouldn't just shut stuff down because it's an argument. Arguments are like core to understanding the world and ourselves, this is a sheet you can exit out of if you want

agreed but we should be able to have respectful discourse and this tends to turn into ppl just talking about how URMs are getting undeserved opportunities. If thats what ppl want to express fine, but when ppl push back, that should not be shut down or invalidated either. Ppl make it seem like URMs are sitting around twiddling their thumbs and not also working their assess off

I agree completely. I think we can agree that the average derm applicant is a badass

becauase people are mad lol < so y'all think top programs interviewed the same 10 students our of the 50 or so that applied by luck? you don't think those 10 students wiped the floor with your white asses by working harder since they tend to also come from no name schools. you think this is all charity? LOOOOL< no they don't think that. I think very few people wipe the floor at all, we're all pretty competitive. > people are misunderstanding this as an attack on URMs. Literally it's a call to monitor the institutions making admissions decisions and make sure these proportions aren't insanely shifted. I'm sorry but there were talented URMs in previous cycles I'm sure and these programs didn't match 33%. In fact they were biased against URNs prob. But this app it seems shifts starkly the other way. I understand the forces that led to this but if it were to continue it would be weird for everyone >> lol ....what??

it was unfair this cycle, just facts

how is that weird? Just as you were right to say 0 to 10% URM is fucked it's also weird to have 0-10% ORM, when there are far more applicants from that pool at top places

it is easier to be competitive from northwestern compared to say howard. and btw most come from no name schools because harvard/penn etc until a black man was killed two years ago did not know that black people needed to be in med school too.

It's so reductionist to attribute a URMs success to the color of their skin.

surprise surprise - if you talk to enough URMs there are those with lower stats who match or match better than URMs with higher stats. derm is derm and its a tough match all around < imagine how shitty it must feel as a URM reading this spreadsheet and realizing these people who think you're not as capable as them are going to be your co-residents

nothing lol < like truly no spark lol or enthusiasm about the program and it's rich that it has a 'good name' when it's literally confused with penn state all the time < also their pd SUCKS lol < really? their PD seems like an incredible person < thought so too

Does Penn prefer not to match their own? < they usually take 2-3 from Penn, but it varies from year to year based on people's preferences (e.g. students at penn who want to go elsewhere)

jules is the absolute best. i couldn't ask for a better mentor. < do you think i could reach out to do a paper with him? should i have an idea already about the paper or can i just ask to be on a project? < helps if you have an idea or at least a general topic you are interested in exploring - he is very open to supporting student interests and helping them turn a question into a project. keep in mind that programs prefer more traditional research though, so projects with him (which tend to focus more on the social aspects of medicine rather than the clinical) should be viewed as a supplement to other research, not necessarily as a primary component of one's research portfolio, but i think reaching out would be a great idea. he is seriously super awesome, down to earth, accessible, and supportive. < not the person who asked you the question, but this makes me want to cry!!! he sounds incredible.

< these types of mentors are underrated but i wanted to add it is s SO true that these new genres of pubs get looked down by the derm faculty with power (ie social media analyses things). SAD because the TikTok pubs are my fav new genre

wondering same.. like what is up with ther match makes no sense