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Hosp of the Univ of PA (Dermatology/3 yr)

Penn

Philadelphia, PA

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Applicant sentiment — from 150 anonymous posts, 2016–2027

7.0 / 10

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Anonymous posters frequently grouped this program among a small set of highly regarded dermatology programs, citing strong research output and academic focus. Several commenters described procedural/reconstructive training positively and characterized the culture as supportive with happy residents, while some posts suggested connections or away rotations may help with interview chances.

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Any other 260+ step 1 applicants still at 0 interviews?

#16092019-2020 DermMar 23

< that would be suprising. do you go to a low tier school? Mid-tier

Mar 23
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that was a stupid question on my end. what even is high/mid/low tier? like top 10/40/100 or something? but to harken back to your situation, the only things I can think of that could be adversely affecting you other than being from a "low" tier school would be not taking a research year / limited research or your geographical area. <I agree with you. I can't really think of much else besides geography and below average research. I have read all but one of my letters and they were strong. I really don't know what to do at this point.

Mar 23
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I'm sorry, friend. I'm assuming it is then the combination of geography and below avg. research. But I'm also SURE you're going to get interviews. Just hang in there! Nothing else you can do now, and with a 260 you clearly worked hard already.

Mar 23
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Yes minus the 260 :D

Mar 23
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Glad to have you on my team << 260+ can give you that same "top tier" school curse where some programs may think you're out of their league. Hang in there, we're with you

Mar 23
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im <260 but PhD (non-research track) and it doesn't look good. low tier school, did good aways, got LoR, SILENCE, it's crazy that this is happening.

Mar 23
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0 interviews at all? <aside from internal no << did you get interviews from your aways?<--any updates for you?

Mar 23
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top tier med school, 260+ Step 1, 15 publications, great LORs, 0 interview invitations. I'm devastated

Mar 23
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Yooooo that SUCKS. Are there a lot of applicants from your school with your stats or better?

Mar 23
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yes. double digit applicants, all similar .

Mar 23
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damn I'm at a double digit school with way worse stats...now I know why I'm not getting invites

Mar 23
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dang OP of this cell, man I feel for you. That is rough, but there is no way you do not match and get a lump sum of interviews at some point.

Mar 23
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TBH, OP, if you're at a Harvard/Yale/Stanford etc. school, chances are you're going to match your home program. You're fine.

Mar 23
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As someone from a top school with a top home program, not true. I wish that I could match into my program, but the schools want a residency class filled with the best folks from other great institutions to add influx of new idea, skills, and connections to the class. This is true ESPECIALLY if there are a ton of us.

Mar 23
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im really starting to realize how big a factor the # of people applying from my school is

Mar 23
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# of people applying is a factor but applicants from top schools are typically safer with fewer invites at top programs compared to non-top school candiates with mid/low tier interviews. Top programs want applicants from top schools so you're competing with a small pool of applicants for all the spots at Harvard/Yale/Stanford/Penn/UCSF etc.

Mar 23
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This . If you look at the people in the Y/H/S/P etc. schools, 80% of residents are from that program, 15% from another Y/H/S/P etc., and MAYBE 1-2 a year from a more "random" school—and that person 100% either had a 100th percentile Step 1 score and/or connections. Also, if you look at their match lists from the past couple years, not a SINGLE one of those programs had an unmatched applicant. So not sure why you're "devastated" when you have a 100% chance of matching—and likely at your home or another top program (unless your personality sucks).

Mar 23
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Swap out Yale for NYU, and you have the proper list of top programs.

Mar 23
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I seriously dont know how this process works. thats insane . <<Not OP (have way lower stats than that lol), but as someone who goes to a top 5 place I can say with fact that there is not a 100% chance. I do not know how all top programs work, but the fact is even though we have more residents than the average program, the number of applicants from our school is greater than th enumber of spots. On top of that, our school does not rank its own first (but yes 1/2 the porgram tends to be our own/research/rotators). It is a top programs and it wants the best from the country. If you look at our match list it looks AMAZING, but it never mentions the people who do not match. I know for the last 3 years, there was 1 or more unmatched derm. We're all in this shit together

Mar 23
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<--- I review applications. While there are some programs that highly value Step 1 score -- I think applicants overestimate how much most programs care about these things. I don't think there are any functional differences betweeen applications with a 240 versus 260 on Step 1. Again, the more important differentiators are clinical grades, letters of recommendation, research, and personal statement (probably in that order). << Agreed, and same is true for whether Top/Mid med school

Mar 23
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< It's really heartening to know that, thank you! Do you know if most programs feel the same way you and the program you're at does about scores? And what programs really do care a lot about scores?

Mar 23
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< does anyone know if school look at clinical grades out of 6 or 7 rotations? (aka including neurology or not?)

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Any insight to when Hopkins or Penn invites will come out?

#16062019-2020 DermMar 23

Hi! Penn's website says by the first week of december, which usually means the last week of november or first week of december. And I think hopkins is coming out this week! << Penn is likely next week, by the 25th

Mar 23
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yea Penn's website says by 11/25 I believe<<any source on hopkins coming out this week?

Mar 23
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<<people have been saying Hopkins for the last 2 weeks lol

Mar 23
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How is everyone's Tuesday going?

#15922019-2020 DermMar 23

Don't say Penn, Don't say Penn :( << The Green Box of Doooooom

Mar 23
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That was mean

Mar 23
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what a troll, I'm getting off this spreadsheet lol

Mar 23
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LOLOL sorry

Mar 23
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hi derm fam, I know invites for these programs haven't gone out yet and to be honest I don't know if I would even get an invite, but I'm curious about UVA and UPenn - I didn't get a chance to rotate at either and was wondering if anyone who did or anyone who goes to the school etc. has any thoughts on the PDs and/or progams at each they'd be willing to share? thank you so much!

#15702019-2020 DermMar 23

I've done an away at Penn and the residents seem happy. Lots of supporting staff and big names. << any inside info about when invites will be sent? No clue - I know some attendings have looked through applicantions so hopefully soon! << thanks!

Mar 23
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thank you for your response! that sounds awesome! did you feel like the residents were nice / friends with each other? and I know UPenn has a number of prominent faculty - did they seem nice / approachable / like they enjoy teaching (esp rosenbach)? sorry for all the questions!!

Mar 23
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not the OP but rosenbach is awesome

Mar 23
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thank you!! he does seem like he's an all around awesome teacher/mentor/person - hope im half as good as an attending :') --> away rotater again: rosenbach is amazing. super nice and teaches alot. Everyone is approachable, some more than others. Overall, I've had a great expereince this month and have learned alot from the faculty here. Tons of research opportunity as well. Residents are super nice! They seem to get along well with each other

Mar 23
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< thank you so much! really appreciate your taking the time to share, and i'm so glad you had such a positive experience!

Mar 23
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For those that applied to UPenn's Research track, there was only an option for the 3 yr program on ERAS when we applied right? Now there's an option for the actual research track on ERAS so I just want to double check

#15672019-2020 DermMar 23

mmm interesting...yea that wasn't there when I applied. What is going on with UPenn?!

Mar 23
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ya i saw that too... i think the other 4-year track is specific to ctcl and that new entry is something else?

Mar 23
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Might as well just check the box

Mar 23
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You mean apply to a "new" program and give AAMC even more money this late in the game? <Costs nothing to check the box

Mar 23
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Oh great, thanks!!

Mar 23
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does anyone know any details on Upenn derm? on eras it says "Not participating in the ERAS 2020 season." see here: https://services.aamc.org/eras/erasstats/par/display.cfm?NAV_ROW=PAR&SPEC_CD=080

#15462019-2020 DermMar 23

< that's so weird! no idea what that could mean, bc they're def participating in match this year no?

Mar 23
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they're def participating

Mar 23
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<< WTF! That is scaring me. Hope it is an error somehow. It says it on ERAS as well. This is my dreammmmm program

Mar 23
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< It has to be an error, there is no WAY Penn is not accepting residents for a year. I wouldn't worry! And jw, why is Penn your dream program? For some reason I always feel like UCSF is everyone's #1? <why is UCSF everyones #1?

Mar 23
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Penn is mine because of Research and location

Mar 23
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if you look at their website it seems as if though they are still accepting. would be weird if they didnt since they included deadlines and everything https://dermatology.upenn.edu/residents/residency-track-application/

Mar 23
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Met an internal last week, pretty sure they are participating

Mar 23
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Penn student here. As far as I know, everything is normal, Penn is participating and nothing has changed. Not sure WTF is going on witht the ERAS thing but I've talked to involved faculty even in the last couple days and it's all good.

Mar 23
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THANKS!

Mar 23
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<< Anyone know when the Penn internal day is?

Mar 23
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hey! anyone know how many applicants med derm programs interview? I didn't get a northwestern or a minnesota med derm invite and am a little worried because I don't see harvard or penn med derm being any less competitive than those programs...F

#14812019-2020 DermMar 23

normal derm applicant here, <2 interviews and only 1 prelim - my heart goes out to you dude or dudette. F x2

Mar 23
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< thanks friend <3 here's hoping the both of us get some love soon.

Mar 23
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Good morning everyone! Will interview invites be released 11/6/19? Yes: 5 No: 11 Programs: Mount Sinai, University of Miami, Cornell, Vanderbilt, Hopkins, Penn Actual: 0 As of 12:00PM today: 63% of programs have not sent out interviews and a sum total of ~171 derm spots have been offered interviews. What does this discrepency between the % of programs that have not been released and the large amount of spots that have not been offered interviews? That the 63% of interviews that have not been released encompasses the larger programs that have more spots and many that have already sent out interviews are smaller and more "regional". What's the point? IT IS EARLY and the overwhelming majority of spots have not been offered interviews yet AND even the ones that have been offered may not have offered for all their spots. On this equvelant day (i.e. first Wednesday of the month) in last years application cycle: 1 interview went out (George Washington University, which came out yesterday for us). Love, SD

#14272019-2020 DermMar 23

Johns Hopkins and Penn are both overdue for interview invites this year. Hopefully, Vanderbilt sends its regular ones out today << Mayo AZ is also pretty overdue << Also, to the neurotics among us, just know that Penn, Vanderbilt, and Johns Hopkins have historically sent out their invitations in batches

Mar 23
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Penn's website says by 11/25

Mar 23
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<Hopkins and penn - both of these places so far out of my reach it doesn't affect me << Try not to feel this way. I was on 0 for a long time and got 2 interviews at top 10 programs. My app is so regular that I assumed it was a mistake. The point is, you never know and no program is a reach.

Mar 23
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<haha, Mt. Sinai practically sends after Christmas, but I like the wishful thinking!

Mar 23
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12/6 in 2017, but yes, probs too early.

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Will interview invites be realed 11/6/19: Yes: 3 No: 0 Programs: Mount Sinai, University of Miami, Cornell, Vanderbilt, Hopkins, Penn Actual: 0

#14202019-2020 DermMar 23

11/5 was a busy day. Will 11/6 be just as prolific? Stay tuned folks. <Why Mt Sinai? Aren't they historically pretty late? << Because I have a feeling deep in my loins

Mar 23
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UMiami most likely won't release dates until they complete their internal interviews.

Mar 23
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when are the internal interviews?

Mar 23
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I think we should call you sheet dad. There's a dude on the plastics sheet that is now called sheet dad and you are sheet dad. << I am a guy, and I am down to be called dad << thanks sheet daddy

Mar 23
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skeet . daddy sheet daddy. Are you dual applying for derm and plastics? << Just derm << looking for a daddy this interview szn, any takers hit me up <<also need daddy I've been a bad grill

Mar 23
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<< plastics sheet dad dropping by, nice to see others taking up the mantle

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Will (more) interviews be released on (11/5/19)? Yes: 1 No: 0 Program Predictions: Mayo AZ, Hopkins, Stanford, Harvard, Minnesota, UMiami, Vanderbilt, Jefferson, Ohio State, Penn, UChicago, Wayne State, Texas Tech, UAB, SIU, Rush, Temple, UVA Actual IVs (4): Georgetown, Wash U (research), Henry Ford, George

#14042019-2020 DermMar 23

< You know, there is the entirety of the West Coast to consider. We're still in business hours << I don't think it's updated to say we're done, just a running tally (the same row is moved up) << just updated it << 10+ person, can you please press CTRL+Z to not erase the field that was there or use the function to get the past entry back << Thank you for reverting it back to original

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oh good question! I would like to know too

#6142019-2020 DermMar 23

My guess: Mt. Sinai, Wake, Howard, UCSF, Harvard, U penn, NYU

Mar 23
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< you forgot UTAH

Mar 23
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NYU??? x2

Mar 23
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absolutely NYU << dang one would think that best skin of color training would occur in places with high % skin of color pop (Detroit, Birmingham, Baltimore, etc)

Mar 23
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really UTAH?

Mar 23
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I think sarcasm

Mar 23
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What about Henry Ford, Emory, UNC, NW? Henry Ford PD actually felt the need to reassure us during the interview presentation that they get to see skin cancer at community clinics because the main hospital is so heavily just skin of color

Mar 23
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<I rotated at UNC and felt it was very diverse - agreed, very pleasantly surprised

Mar 23
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Another vote for Wake Forest! Amy McMichael is an amazing doctor and person!

Mar 23
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<- WF faculty seems diverse, but their patient population is still pretty rural and not as diverse

Mar 23
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yes, but Dr. McMichael has an interest in SOC so tailors her teaching/clinic to that. She gave a talk to our program a few years ago, hence the fangirling.

Mar 23
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Also, Hopkins has a specific initiative to support underrepresented minority faculty and residents.

Mar 23
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< the same people who was spamming the sheet with UPenn stuff

#13792019-2020 DermMar 23

LOL

Mar 23
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Last year I watched almost every match day video over the past two years. It's how I survived my research year as my classmates graduated.

#12662019-2020 DermMar 23

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=votFxYAY9UE Is Penn still having their match day?

Mar 23
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ugh regrets doing this, i just watched my schools from last year and cried that I won't have the same experience :(

Mar 23
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I've done an away at Penn and the residents seem happy. Lots of supporting staff and big names. << any inside info about when invites will be sent? No clue - I know some attendings have looked through applicantions so hopefully soon! << thanks!

#1802019-2020 DermMar 23

thank you for your response! that sounds awesome! did you feel like the residents were nice / friends with each other? and I know UPenn has a number of prominent faculty - did they seem nice / approachable / like they enjoy teaching (esp rosenbach)? sorry for all the questions!!

Mar 23
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not the OP but rosenbach is awesome

Mar 23
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thank you!! he does seem like he's an all around awesome teacher/mentor/person - hope im half as good as an attending :') --> away rotater again: rosenbach is amazing. super nice and teaches alot. Everyone is approachable, some more than others. Overall, I've had a great expereince this month and have learned alot from the faculty here. Tons of research opportunity as well. Residents are super nice! They seem to get along well with each other

Mar 23
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< thank you so much! really appreciate your taking the time to share, and i'm so glad you had such a positive experience!

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<<some of us were very aware that we are most likely not penn material, so never took the effort to get my hopes up on this one lol<doesnt hurt to dream big

#3882019-2020 DermMar 23

- i have few interviews so i knew it was impossible, but... x1

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i dgafffffff

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