Hosp of the Univ of PA (Dermatology/3 yr)

mmm interesting...yea that wasn't there when I applied. What is going on with UPenn?!

ya i saw that too... i think the other 4-year track is specific to ctcl and that new entry is something else?

Might as well just check the box

You mean apply to a "new" program and give AAMC even more money this late in the game? <Costs nothing to check the box

Oh great, thanks!!

< that's so weird! no idea what that could mean, bc they're def participating in match this year no?

they're def participating

<< WTF! That is scaring me. Hope it is an error somehow. It says it on ERAS as well. This is my dreammmmm program

< It has to be an error, there is no WAY Penn is not accepting residents for a year. I wouldn't worry! And jw, why is Penn your dream program? For some reason I always feel like UCSF is everyone's #1? <why is UCSF everyones #1?

Penn is mine because of Research and location

if you look at their website it seems as if though they are still accepting. would be weird if they didnt since they included deadlines and everything https://dermatology.upenn.edu/residents/residency-track-application/

Met an internal last week, pretty sure they are participating

Penn student here. As far as I know, everything is normal, Penn is participating and nothing has changed. Not sure WTF is going on witht the ERAS thing but I've talked to involved faculty even in the last couple days and it's all good.

THANKS!

<< Anyone know when the Penn internal day is?

normal derm applicant here, <2 interviews and only 1 prelim - my heart goes out to you dude or dudette. F x2

< thanks friend <3 here's hoping the both of us get some love soon.

Johns Hopkins and Penn are both overdue for interview invites this year. Hopefully, Vanderbilt sends its regular ones out today << Mayo AZ is also pretty overdue << Also, to the neurotics among us, just know that Penn, Vanderbilt, and Johns Hopkins have historically sent out their invitations in batches

Penn's website says by 11/25

<Hopkins and penn - both of these places so far out of my reach it doesn't affect me << Try not to feel this way. I was on 0 for a long time and got 2 interviews at top 10 programs. My app is so regular that I assumed it was a mistake. The point is, you never know and no program is a reach.

<haha, Mt. Sinai practically sends after Christmas, but I like the wishful thinking!

12/6 in 2017, but yes, probs too early.

11/5 was a busy day. Will 11/6 be just as prolific? Stay tuned folks. <Why Mt Sinai? Aren't they historically pretty late? << Because I have a feeling deep in my loins

UMiami most likely won't release dates until they complete their internal interviews.

when are the internal interviews?

I think we should call you sheet dad. There's a dude on the plastics sheet that is now called sheet dad and you are sheet dad. << I am a guy, and I am down to be called dad << thanks sheet daddy

skeet . daddy sheet daddy. Are you dual applying for derm and plastics? << Just derm << looking for a daddy this interview szn, any takers hit me up <<also need daddy I've been a bad grill

<< plastics sheet dad dropping by, nice to see others taking up the mantle

< You know, there is the entirety of the West Coast to consider. We're still in business hours << I don't think it's updated to say we're done, just a running tally (the same row is moved up) << just updated it << 10+ person, can you please press CTRL+Z to not erase the field that was there or use the function to get the past entry back << Thank you for reverting it back to original

My guess: Mt. Sinai, Wake, Howard, UCSF, Harvard, U penn, NYU

< you forgot UTAH

NYU??? x2

absolutely NYU << dang one would think that best skin of color training would occur in places with high % skin of color pop (Detroit, Birmingham, Baltimore, etc)

really UTAH?

I think sarcasm

What about Henry Ford, Emory, UNC, NW? Henry Ford PD actually felt the need to reassure us during the interview presentation that they get to see skin cancer at community clinics because the main hospital is so heavily just skin of color

<I rotated at UNC and felt it was very diverse - agreed, very pleasantly surprised

Another vote for Wake Forest! Amy McMichael is an amazing doctor and person!

<- WF faculty seems diverse, but their patient population is still pretty rural and not as diverse

yes, but Dr. McMichael has an interest in SOC so tailors her teaching/clinic to that. She gave a talk to our program a few years ago, hence the fangirling.

Also, Hopkins has a specific initiative to support underrepresented minority faculty and residents.

LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=votFxYAY9UE Is Penn still having their match day?

ugh regrets doing this, i just watched my schools from last year and cried that I won't have the same experience :(

thank you for your response! that sounds awesome! did you feel like the residents were nice / friends with each other? and I know UPenn has a number of prominent faculty - did they seem nice / approachable / like they enjoy teaching (esp rosenbach)? sorry for all the questions!!

not the OP but rosenbach is awesome

thank you!! he does seem like he's an all around awesome teacher/mentor/person - hope im half as good as an attending :') --> away rotater again: rosenbach is amazing. super nice and teaches alot. Everyone is approachable, some more than others. Overall, I've had a great expereince this month and have learned alot from the faculty here. Tons of research opportunity as well. Residents are super nice! They seem to get along well with each other

< thank you so much! really appreciate your taking the time to share, and i'm so glad you had such a positive experience!

- i have few interviews so i knew it was impossible, but... x1

i dgafffffff

holy shit that many?? is that normal for penn? I'm honestly surprised with that many internals all of their residents aren't from penn itself

< they have 2 dates so I'm assuming they interview 20-30? Also are they very internal-favoring...? I go to a top15 med school and literally none of our applicants got an invite from Penn

super internal favoring, just look at the list of their current residents

looks like they take 1-2 internals per year, would not say thats "super internal favoring" compared to other programs

they interview all internals on a separate date (already happened) and I think they have 3 dates for externals?

1-2 internal/yr sounds about right. I don't think I would call it super internal heavy esp given the number of internal applicants each year

They are internal favoring though -- I didn't just say that meaning actual internal penn students, I meant internal in the broader sense of the word eg, some of the current residents were research fellows and some have parents on penn faculty -- once all of that is taking into account, it begins to look like they take ~1-2 students internal from penn itself (usually 2) and ~1-2 students internal in another way (usually 2) which is ~ 80% of their spots so....

< so many lies in these cells it's hilarious << someone said Baylor literally had double-digit internal applicants though.

can confirm, not a lie

Can also confirm, I have heard 12 baylor from multiple students

x2 you never know what people want. Most people at the top end up fitting in somewhere.

< okay so there are something like a few hundred seats though right? Like so the top 40 take the top 5-10 programs, and then everywhere else is regional or what? like its not like only even the top 100 people would match

regional and totally random. And heavily influenced by rotators, connections, compelling reasons someone wants to move.

I actually thought that I had a good shot for both... here's what I get for getting my hopes up

sadness, sadness all around today x2 <-- could be worse

epic

when youre a baller department and have your own newsletter :O https://dermatology.upenn.edu/wp-content/themes/dermatology_main/_library/pdf/Newsletter-Fall-2019.pdf