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Anonymous posters frequently described NYU Grossman as a highly regarded, competitive dermatology program with strong clinical volume and hospital-based training. Several posts noted long working hours and mixed accounts of resident satisfaction, while others raised questions about housing costs and salary. A few commenters described the program as more clinically than research focused.
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❌1. Very fucking weird vibes while rotating there. Attendings are nice to your face, harsh behind your back. Residents (including chiefs) are talking shit about certain nurses. Everyone can be super cold (esp some of the nurses? idk maybe just a NYC thing). Residents ask you to do little personal errands not related to patient care.
💬1. Might be a NYC thing with the nurses; they've been on strike in the past few months and tensions been building up. Frequent discussions on r/residency about the dynamic between NYC nurses and residents. > personal errands sounds like some bullshit > a friend who did an away there told me he was asked to help with picking up a resident's child lol > that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard respectfully a crazy thing to ask a med student
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<Lol this is just more evidence NYU is being ranked #1 by lots of people, gunners gunna gun
after interviewing at a nyc program and seeing how ridiculous the COL is, im not interested in living like a rat even if it's in nyc or whatever the training will be like or the rep
< LOL WTF. I am sure a lot of people are. Manhatten. Top 5 program. /endthread
Manhattan ** isn't that great, as someone who's lived there. Disagree that it isn't safe tho, or any less safe than any other city program.
lol this forum is absolute crap. Gunners trying to disuade other gunners from ranking top programs due to "fit" wtf
Well NYU sent out RTM calls soo if you didn't get one, sorry buddy
< uh is this real?
Can't verify the authenticity of the post but I matched to NYU last year with 0 post-interview communication.
From the post, which was published in November 2015: "First of all, before I even get into the interviews themselves, I just want to say don’t panic if you don’t have a high number of interviews yet. Dermatology interview invitations come out later than all the other fields, so you can still expect interview invites to roll in through December and even into January. So step one is to take a deep breath and calm down. Schedule all your prelim and transitional interviews now while you have time and try to get as many of those out of the way in November and December because January, the month where the majority of derm interviews are, will be a wild ride."
I feel like this is easy for her to say since she did residency at NYU
also she was coming from stanford
half of the applicants here have >4 interviews. more than half of programs have sent out interview invites; the rest are top tiers or something. that is a like 60+ chance of matching. so now yes, i am panicking.
But how does that help?
figure out if i need to take another year or alternative career options? also does anyone really think there's going to be a huge trickle in january?
yeah with conflicts, probs
i guess thats my only other hope but im real uncomfortable abbout it, not sure if they're seriously going to rank me or its a waste of my money
**FYI the MSKCC TY interview is AM only, so you'll be able to make the NYU dinner on the 11th as well fi your'e doing MSKCC + NYU :)
there's like 6 NYU conflicts. wow
Top tier: UPenn Harvard UCSF NYU Mayo Michigan, Emory, Henry Ford?) and Michigan and Mayo are not top tier. Would add Stanford, Hopkins, and UCLA instead)
would also add UTSW https://www.mdedge.com/dermatology/article/157864/practice-management/us-dermatology-residency-program-rankings-based/page/0/1 <<what is the difference between this article and the doximity rankings? Is there more validity to one vs the other? << lol, someone put UCLA in top tier (UCLA isn't even a Department, it's a Division) >> lol UCLA low tier for sure << realistically, probably middle to low, great overall health system but will always have hands tied and no real ability to grow
UCLA is a solid program, strong surgical training, lacks the super complex patients of some more intense programs but it depends on what you are looking for in your training << I don't think anyone's saying it's a bad program, just not a top tier, that's kind of silly
UCLA is the perfect example of a low-to-mid tier program that is nonetheless quite competitive given it's in California. Again, there's often a disconnect between prestige/quality of training and competitiveness. Location, location, location.
No way that Hopkins and UCLA would be top tier over Michigan and Mayo
Mid-tier: OHSU, Iowa, Minnesota, UPMC >> Would probably put MN as low tier? >> Thoughts? Why? >> Minnesota would probably be in same tier as OHSU, Iowa, UPMC. Iowa has great faculty, but I think it does suffer from being in a relatively non-diverse, predominately white, smallish-city in Iowa. Minnesota, OHSU, and UPMC are in more urban environments with at least UPMC and Minnesota having more ethnic / racial diversity, (Portland is super white as well). Also, no one should trust that MDedge nonsense x5
To be fair they tried to make an objective measure. Many of the opinions here leave out some good programs and add in top medical schools that are not top derm programs
MN, Iowa as med-high tier? Would drop UPMC to low tier (just feel like no residents really enjoy it there but maybe that's just me lol)? And Iowa usually as a top 20 program on almost all ranking systems (though you cant always trust these things so who knows). I think its one of those places that suffers in many peoples minds because they have a not-so great med school and its in the mid west, but the derm program is actually extremely well-respected independednt of those facts
1. Penn 2. UCSF 3. NYU 4. Harvard 5. Stanford 6. Northwestern 7. Emory 8. UTSW 9. Hopkins 10. Wash U 11. Mayo 12. Michigan 13. Iowa 14. HF 15. OHSU 16. Colorado 17. Minnesota 18. Utah 19. Cornell 20. Vanderbilt
<-What is this list based on? Its totally inaccurate. Hopkins and Vanderbilt are mid tier programs at best. No Yale? No UW? No Wisconsin? No Miami? No Sinai? Cornell over Columbia? UPMC is definitely mid to top tier. Also, tiers maybe, but I dont understand how you can possibly rank 1 vs. 3 vs. 8 off the cuff << yeah, 1-3 is pretty standard, gets messy with next 5 I was about to post how accurate this list is. Some of the programs listed above are no way in the conversation. You can maybe disagree with Wash U/Cornell to the left tho. I'd agree Vanderbilt too high too
<Yale for sure. x4 . Think that list is pretty accurate for top 20 minus Wash U, Cornell, and Vanderbilt. Would replace with Yale and Columbia. And Cleveland Clinic maybe. <<I question the order of some of these too. Hopkins is not a top 10 (but it is a top 20 probably). I agree that Sinai, miami, Columbia would also be top 20. Vandy should not be on that list and neither should a few others.
<How good are the following programs: UPMC, Hopkins, UCSD, Miami.
I think those are all decent programs (mid-top tier?). I would say that I typically view Hopkins as a mid-tier program (they don't have a lot of diversity in terms of training sites, though Hopkins itself is a great hospital). Miami is typically considered a Top 10 program - but they also are quite disorganized, old facilities, longer hours (Saturday clinics). UPMC takes a lot of MD/PhDs and has great Mohs training, though I never found their program actually attracts people who want to be there. UCSD is solid, somewhat basic-science focused. It's outshined by other programs in California (e.g. Stanford, UCSF, USC) and San Diego has great weather / beaches, though admittedly isn't the most exciting place to live / lacks a lot of arts / culture compared to most bigger cities in the United States.
name me a state with better Mexican food tho
stanford << disagree. Residents talked more with each other than with applicants during the resident dinner lol -- just goes to show how tight knit and happy of a group they are. (or how little they actually see of each other)
I thought the people at Harvard were fantastic x2.
The Harvard residents are super shady. They have secret hang-outs but dont invite the residents that arent "cool" enough. Serious mean girls shit. Lol. Very clique-y.
Wait where did you hear this? FAKE NEWSSSSS << I didn't "hear" it. I experienced it. If you don't believe me, go confront one of the "popular" residents about it.
LOL love how in the cell to the left Stanford residents are called tight knit and happy for sticking together and Harvard residents are called cliquey
If you feel "left out" by the residency class, maybe you're the weird one
harsh lol
Penn > UCSF > Stanford = Harvard >> all others . (x2 though I did not go to one of these, I have the same order for the other 3, but it varies alot with who you happened to talk to) ^sounds like someone's desperate to go to Harvard/UCSF/Stanford : )
haha I agree with this order, and I am ranking Penn 1. If people are actually trying to alter ranks by these orders, that is kinda sad....if it works that's even more sad lol
UCSF and Penn were my favorites x5 <- damn lol, you guys are very lucky to have interviewed at both
didn't interview at UCSF, but had the other 4 "top 5" programs and agree Penn residents seem closest. I would put NYU up there as well
utsw residents were chill! did not expect that x2
very pleasant surprise. The program moved up on my list based on the people there which I was not expecting
Hopkins residents were so fun and nice! x3
The saddest part of this all is most of the 'top' programs are in areas low/middle income candidates simply cannot afford, thus making the field only for the wealthy<yeah success in medicine in general favors the wealthy but A) those programs have other specialties so IF it were a problem it would be larger than just derm and B) for the most part salaries are congruous with CoL and C) you don't need to go to a top residency program to be a doctor
Most people don't get NYU subsdized housing
PGY1 (for 2019-2020) is $68k GME wide so I assume a bit higher than that
https://med.nyu.edu/pediatrics/residency/program-overview/salary-information
Uhh yah probably 95% of us
don't think it's that high
Let's say 800 people apply... they probably interview 40-50 so max they're inteviewing is 5% of candidates... no? I mean ball park << when you say AND, you're multiplying stats right, so im going to assume that at least 90% of people missed out on all of Harvard, Stanford, UCSF, AND Penn
So to make this simpler, what are the chances of getting an interview at one the top 5, say UCSF, Harvard, Stanford, NYU, and Penn?
how many people do you think get all 5 of the top 5 places? 4/5? 3/5?
~10%, ~12%, ~15% respectively I'd say? ---- Probably 15-20 people get 5/5 for the top 5. I've realized that it's mostly the same people getting all the top 10 interviews." <- coming from one of these schools i can tell you that this is not the case and the number with all 5 is much fewer.
I'm sure there are some godly people out there with all of the top 5 plus the next top 5, and ideally they will drop some of them for the rest of us :p<<<guilty :) but have trickled many invites so wishing everyone the best of luck
sigh managed to get NYU/harvard/stanford/UCSF...and no penn...and ive lived near penn my whole life. idk what went wrong there, was my top choice
< that would be suprising. do you go to a low tier school? Mid-tier
that was a stupid question on my end. what even is high/mid/low tier? like top 10/40/100 or something? but to harken back to your situation, the only things I can think of that could be adversely affecting you other than being from a "low" tier school would be not taking a research year / limited research or your geographical area. <I agree with you. I can't really think of much else besides geography and below average research. I have read all but one of my letters and they were strong. I really don't know what to do at this point.
I'm sorry, friend. I'm assuming it is then the combination of geography and below avg. research. But I'm also SURE you're going to get interviews. Just hang in there! Nothing else you can do now, and with a 260 you clearly worked hard already.
Yes minus the 260 :D
Glad to have you on my team << 260+ can give you that same "top tier" school curse where some programs may think you're out of their league. Hang in there, we're with you
im <260 but PhD (non-research track) and it doesn't look good. low tier school, did good aways, got LoR, SILENCE, it's crazy that this is happening.
0 interviews at all? <aside from internal no << did you get interviews from your aways?<--any updates for you?
top tier med school, 260+ Step 1, 15 publications, great LORs, 0 interview invitations. I'm devastated
Yooooo that SUCKS. Are there a lot of applicants from your school with your stats or better?
yes. double digit applicants, all similar .
damn I'm at a double digit school with way worse stats...now I know why I'm not getting invites
dang OP of this cell, man I feel for you. That is rough, but there is no way you do not match and get a lump sum of interviews at some point.
TBH, OP, if you're at a Harvard/Yale/Stanford etc. school, chances are you're going to match your home program. You're fine.
As someone from a top school with a top home program, not true. I wish that I could match into my program, but the schools want a residency class filled with the best folks from other great institutions to add influx of new idea, skills, and connections to the class. This is true ESPECIALLY if there are a ton of us.
im really starting to realize how big a factor the # of people applying from my school is
# of people applying is a factor but applicants from top schools are typically safer with fewer invites at top programs compared to non-top school candiates with mid/low tier interviews. Top programs want applicants from top schools so you're competing with a small pool of applicants for all the spots at Harvard/Yale/Stanford/Penn/UCSF etc.
This . If you look at the people in the Y/H/S/P etc. schools, 80% of residents are from that program, 15% from another Y/H/S/P etc., and MAYBE 1-2 a year from a more "random" school—and that person 100% either had a 100th percentile Step 1 score and/or connections. Also, if you look at their match lists from the past couple years, not a SINGLE one of those programs had an unmatched applicant. So not sure why you're "devastated" when you have a 100% chance of matching—and likely at your home or another top program (unless your personality sucks).
Swap out Yale for NYU, and you have the proper list of top programs.
I seriously dont know how this process works. thats insane . <<Not OP (have way lower stats than that lol), but as someone who goes to a top 5 place I can say with fact that there is not a 100% chance. I do not know how all top programs work, but the fact is even though we have more residents than the average program, the number of applicants from our school is greater than th enumber of spots. On top of that, our school does not rank its own first (but yes 1/2 the porgram tends to be our own/research/rotators). It is a top programs and it wants the best from the country. If you look at our match list it looks AMAZING, but it never mentions the people who do not match. I know for the last 3 years, there was 1 or more unmatched derm. We're all in this shit together
<--- I review applications. While there are some programs that highly value Step 1 score -- I think applicants overestimate how much most programs care about these things. I don't think there are any functional differences betweeen applications with a 240 versus 260 on Step 1. Again, the more important differentiators are clinical grades, letters of recommendation, research, and personal statement (probably in that order). << Agreed, and same is true for whether Top/Mid med school
< It's really heartening to know that, thank you! Do you know if most programs feel the same way you and the program you're at does about scores? And what programs really do care a lot about scores?
< does anyone know if school look at clinical grades out of 6 or 7 rotations? (aka including neurology or not?)
<The Stanford and Harvard posts were lies
I got Harvard and NYU RTM calls x 4 <lol
pretty sure NYU said specifically that they would not be contacting us
They just said that to the scrubs
so you mean when the PD said that to the entire interview day, she decided we were all scrubs? lmao
Look at the edit history, the NYU person posted it 5 times in all the first columns
NYU, I don't know what the past interview impressions were talking about, the faculty were very funny/witty and not "stone faced" at all. I wish that we had been able to see Bellevue (I got to see it during medical school interviews, and I do think that it is the crown jewel of NYU). Still, I enjoyed the presentations since all the faculty members came out to give their take on the school and their specialty. Also, UTSW, so many residents came out, program is super strong, PD seems super invested in the program (especially to have stayed the PD for ~30 years), the 2-day interview and the faculty/residents coming out on a Saturday made a strong impression on how much they value the educational aspect of the dermatology department. Derm interviews end up being quite an elaborate production.
agree with NYU, really left a strong impression on me. Another underrated one was Michigan. I thought the interview staff were exceptional and the interviewers had all read my app/had insightful questions
Emory!!!! Just kidding ... UVA was really solid
I'm actually so suprised by Michigan! That goes to show that you take the things said on the internet with a grain of salt. What ever malignancy that was there is definitely in the past. So many great changes have been made and the residents were genuinely happy.
interview day doesn't always equate to what it is actually like to work there x2
hopefully Michigan has changed as people have said since that post a few years back. I have friends who are there for things like ENT and plastics and they're known for having one of the best surgical cultures in the country
UAB! If this program were in a more popular or sexy location it would be a top tier type program. Extremely well-rounded with a big wig chair who advocates like heck for her residents for fellowships, jobs (private or academic). Residents get their fellowships in a very happy collegial atmosphere. Low COL, high QOL, overall awesome!
MCW! residents are incredibly nice, faculty is diverse in training and the program is growing. During the interview, chair is ambitious (he is an incredibly big name) and really trying to seel program. He has already accomplished a lot. Low COL and they really wanted everyone to be there. I also interviewed at UAB, it did not feel top tier. The faculty is incredibly small for it to be a top tier... yeah I was really disappointed by UAB too
MCG having a 100% Mohs match rate was impressive to me given the national averages
over what time frame?
I think is quite new program
Not sure over what time frame but seemed like since the chair has been there. the program was started in 1967 so not exactly new
agree with NYU...definitely solidified itself as #1 program in the country << you're trying too hard with this comment
NYU
I'd like to give a nod to the University of Missouri for the pizza at lunch. Bahn Mi pizza was delicious
Henry Ford for the best snacks. Dried fruit, chocolate covered (dont remember what), and Rx bars
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Miami. That Cuban food was so good
I love this town, the people, the food - pork sandwiches - my favorite ... but tonight I'm hungry for something different
UCSFx2 gotta love that sushi and ice cream sandwich combo
Kaiser lunch had bomb build your own bibimbap
TX A&M had chick fil a sandwiches so them for sure
Yale "foods of New Haven" was bomb x 2
The Mexican food at Stanford + the mediterranean food at stanford
Dartmouth pre-fixe farm to table dinner the night before
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lol, I think NYU has gotten the most hate of any program this year< i didnt read a lot of hate here?? what are you talking about