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Feel free to change the number of spots on the match list if you know the numbers

Mizzou and SLU?

I'd like to give a nod to the University of Missouri for the pizza at lunch. Bahn Mi pizza was delicious

Henry Ford for the best snacks. Dried fruit, chocolate covered (dont remember what), and Rx bars

tx

Miami. That Cuban food was so good

I love this town, the people, the food - pork sandwiches - my favorite ... but tonight I'm hungry for something different

UCSFx2 gotta love that sushi and ice cream sandwich combo

Kaiser lunch had bomb build your own bibimbap

TX A&M had chick fil a sandwiches so them for sure

Yale "foods of New Haven" was bomb x 2

The Mexican food at Stanford + the mediterranean food at stanford

Dartmouth pre-fixe farm to table dinner the night before

how do you know this?

in an earlier post someone mentioned that stanford had a 100% mohs match rate, so I'm going off that and the fact that it's stanford

ok, but where did that person get his/her info? I doubt any program (even Stanford) is 100%

idk

<Does anyone know about Mohs match rate for Hopkins. they don't have a fellowship either

I know they always have people match...but I'm not sure how many have not matched in the past few years which is what matters more

everyone has matched from JHU in the past 5 years

I know of 1 who has not in past 5 years, I think rest have so still good match rate

on the opposite end, looking at the list stressed me out because places I ranked high others didn't and places I ranked low others ranked high. Makes me wonder if I messed up my ROL x2

Its not really a surprise that people are ranking places like Harvard, Penn, Stanford, UCSF, etc. highly...

mrw no one is ranking my #1 as #1 or #2, which means i might match there and i would be very happy :))

yeah I don't think anyone will get off waitlist this year x2

Jan 17 has no conflicts, ain't nobody cancelling a Stan interview

very unlikely

You guys forget that January 16 (their internal date) might have cancellations. Overlaps with Harvard and others

don't think stanford has a large applicant class and also don't think they're precluded from the 17th

small applicant class makes me wonder why they don't just open up January 16 to externals as well. Only 7 internal applicants + 3 rotators?

Wow that's a lot less than I would have expected. Does anyone know how many they interview on their external date?

I don't know where you got those numbers, but you're wrong. Stanford has a fair number of fellowship applicants as well.

that makes more sense

no, but maybe for internals?<is Stanford coming out today?

Doesn’t matter. All about your instagram presence at that point< HAHA

100% true

depends on how many giveaways/month

This may be dumb to say but maybe Stanford since the population may be most like private?

<<Dude, NYU for sure

NYU wasn't one of the OP's posted programs

MCW wasn't an RTM call based on what was written 9-10 rows below here << do we think yale actually did?

A few programs have. It really doesn't matter though - rank in order of which programs you want to attend.

I agree it shouldn't change ranking but I do think it's reasonable to want to know which have sent them

email said around 1 oh please, I just hate the lies some times. USC as a health system was recently on probation. They are not jumping from UCLA in droves to USC.

this is actually not true - several faculty have been poached from UCLA to USC (in "droves") <yes, including USC's current PD and head Mohs surgeon.

before or after probation issues? Also 2 people don't constitute 'droves'

some after, some before. probation issues had nothing to do with the derm department. there are more than those 2.

either you have a UCLA invite and not a USC invite, or you haven't spent much time with both depts...

you don't have to believe me, look up their faculty list and see for yourself

☕☕☕

um, UCLA has like 8 more faculty than USC

quality, not quantity honey

<not a top CA program <There are many solid CA programs and UCLA is included in that. I know someone who ranked UCLA over UCSF & Stanford partially for locations reasons, but they did not feel like they were sacrificing quality of education. <Great location, but still not a top program compared to every others in CA. <true

not true

Stanford & UCSF are on another level, then UCSD, then UC-davis, UCLA & USC

would consider lower tier program. Not a department (it's a division under medicine) so there is limited upside for improvements. Location is amazing though if you want to be in SoCal x4 .

Would not say low tier. Would pick it above most of the 100+ programs, but not top tier/upper

In order: Stanford/USCF, UCSD, UC-Davis, UCLA, USC, UC-Irvine, Loma Linda/UCLA-Harbor, Kaiser Permanente, Opti West (Newport)

UCLA and UC Davis are not above USC

This one line represents the horrible sabotage that is going to plague every question about california programs this season

This whole thread is ridiculous. Pick whichever CA program suits you the best. Derm reputations are mostly based on how long the program has been around and how much research money they have. Remember that matching at a "top tier derm program" may be seen as > matching to other programs, but they're >>>>>>>>> not matching. Regardless, you'll be the envy of every other non-derm doctor

<I don't have an answer but dont forget reputation is an extrinsic measure that doesn't tell you much. It is also highly contentious as this sheet has shown over the past months. Clinics, patient population, speciality exposure, fellowship match, research can all be considered individually according to what matters to you. If rep matters though you can factor that in, but again it is super contentious, mostly research based, and seems made up half the time (aka loudest ppl on google sheet determine the accepted rep)

good point. that was insensitive

rank #3 > rank #2 still doesn't make sense though also lmfao at the predominance of respondents ranked ivies first, so there's obviously a bias here

LOL

unequal number, because people adding to it. Stanford just jumped 4 up in like 15 minutes // ha, Harvard just did it in short period too, smh

<Harvard for baller academic/research connections and opportunities, lots of med derm, less clinically heavy; NYU tons of clinics/Bellevue which you'll get baller, academics also good, UCSF work hard af but has a bit of everything and is great; Stanford is like the most supportive of the top 5 and will likely have the most good-feeling experience ... idk I'm a PGY1 that interviewed some of these so I don't actually know anything <<thanks for your insight! what do you mean harvard is less clinically heavy? like more inpatient experience? <<there's less resident clinic autonomy, you work a lot with attendings in specialty clinic and it's less ownership of your own patients, but it's like that anyways at the top academic programs as opposed to a small community program, just heard it's more accentuated at Harvard<<interesting, so are residents mostly just presenting patients and writing notes rather than coming up with management plans? <i imagine yes since you're seeing super complex patients at a tertiary care center<dang, fair enough. thank you! << "just present and write notes instead of coming up with management plans"? Is that an actual, serious comment? You think the residents just present the patient then stand there looking blankly at the attending waiting for them to just hand them a treatment plan? If you see complex patients, you learn how to come up with complex plans

< thanks for the input! What about penn?

PGY1. Loved Penn program (didn't match there but had it ranked #1). Amazing faculty, good autonomy, everyone seemed happy. Great exposure to procedures as well (which I felt was a weakness at Harvard)

Stanford - happy residents, assume great clinical experience (although no one seems to emphasize this as much about Stanford); UCSF - one of best if not best clinical experience in the country for complex derm, work you very hard though. Others I don't know as well. Go with your gut and where you felt like the personalities of the residents were most similar to yours.

Penn is the best all-round plus the procedural skill > Harvard. Stanford would be my #2 for the supportive vibe and innovation.

UCSF and Penn are definitly the two best/most well-rounded programs in the country. All the other "top" programs have significnt weaknesses (i.e stanford and harvard have weak derm surg, etc). NYU residents seem to work the hardest and seemed to me to be the least happy.

even when it says x2 or x3 it could be a random fake post from 1 person

Exactly

Yale might not do R2M but they are known to make it very clear that they want you so if there's been no correspondence, that's definitely a sign - also Stanford and Penn has indeed sent out calls

Yale won't get everyone they want, so don't worry if there is no correspondence from any of these programs

If a place has sent out RTM calls and you didn't get one... would it be unusual for you to still match there? x2 << not impossible, but your chances are much lower

<Not really. The applicants who are getting r2m calls at these locations are getting r2m calls from all the others that do them as well, and everyone can only go to one program.

I think some but not all research went out? Don't think we got regulars yet

can't wait to get the rejection emails either, i feel ya <think positively!

i literally have 1 TY and 1 derm interview lmao if either of these schools interview me i will give you $20 <(haha haha i love your sense of humor! I hope you match somewhere!)