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Fame & Shame
2025–2026 Derm
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✅1. One of the best well rounded training programs in the country. You'll work hard but come out really well trained especially in complex med derm. The best academic derms I've met have trained here. Plus it's in Miami lol (could be a con for the price and if you don't like big cities though). Some concerns for toxicity in the past but now have been vastly improved with new leadership who are super supportive of their residents. Residents also really echoed this during interviews. Really great interview day, faculty and residents seem very nice and happy to be living and training there. Away rotations are high yield here (auto IV). While Spanish is helpful, it's not absolutely required especially since its derm, but there is plenty of interpreter help available if needed (especially at the county hospital). PD and chair are amazing and constantly hiring new faculty both nationally and internationally. Many unique and rare specialty clinics. Pretty much every faculty does research. May not be the best program to go if you want a chiller schedule however.
✅2. Despite being one of the largest derm academic programs, their cosmetic training is really solid. Can't say the same for other big academic programs. Really strong surgical exposure too. Will get to manage conditions others only read about.
✅3. Fantastic away rotation experience. They spent a ton of time getting to know me and hear about my goals and how the department could support those goals. Also, extremely hands on rotation.
✅4. I've only heard amazing things from the alumni of this program with regards to culture and training. The chair is awesome. Multiple resident wellness days off each year, good elective time in final year to purse your interests
❌1. A true beacon of toxicity, from the students to the residents to the faculty. Workhorse program and hours. The pay is -not- enough for living reasonably in downtown Miami. The APD takes pride in the amount of inpatient hour and weekend calls this program has as if this is some kind of benefit/as if the majority of you will actually go into academic medicine or complex med-derm. The pro comment mentions "new leadership" but it has been the same 3 (chair, PD, APD) in charge for the last 4 or 5 years that pick favorites. This claim that the rigor will provide excellent training will frankly be disproven if you met any batch of the recently selected cohorts over the last few years. Rank high solely off location, but do not pretend the program is riding off anything but its name and the select faculty that are renowned.
“Agree on the pay to COL comment, but I personally only had great interactions with the faculty and residents so not really sure where your comments coming from. I won't dispute it though because everyone has there own experience, but I think its important for others to form their own opinion on people through in person interactions. Also, I personally found their residents to be incredibly well trained, and have worked with some of their alumni who are also leaders in the field. I think you're right to say they want those who are looking to stay in academia and advance the field, and that's honestly not the majority of derm applicants so its possible this disconnect is where the 'toxicity' is being referred to.”
incredibly out of touch. that program is low key malignant see the name and shame
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What did it say? Didn't receive - x4 What happened?
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They sent out an email an hour before NRMP saying that "UM Frost Dermatology will not be fortunate enough to train all of you talented and wonderful people, but I am confident that we will all be colleagues in years to come." They were trying to be positive but it was very stressful right before the NRMP email... -- Thanks for posting the email. yeah, that is stressful!
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It was just so not on the pulse. They should really be ashamed of what they have become<<
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He was trying to be nice...dont be dramatic
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miami is not low key malignant, they are high key malignant... those pompous asshats don't even interview their own medical students... last year they had a med student match harvard that THEY didn't even interview... x1
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WOW. Someone just deleted 30 rows of the spreadsheet because they are a sympathizer of the China dictatorship
I know this is a joke, but it might not be far from reality..... I personally know quite a few communist China sympathizers in Dermatology. x3
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someone deleted name and shame miami cells as well
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If they can cancel SXSW and Ultra and Tomorrowland (and possibly Coachella is on the docket), the AAD can cancel the annual meeting <-- whoever you are that's up to date on these things, let's go rave together :) << OP of this cell here. I'll bring the glitter sunscreen! <-- oooh...+ bucket hat for the wide brimmed hat combo?
FM -> Derm Cosmetics Fellowship -> dont have to deal with the rest of derm bullshit and just make a ton of money << what kind of derm cosmo fellowship can non-derm people do?? < NYU, UCLA, Miami
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<<Such a gunner move "hurr just don't go into derm, another spot for me". TBH you can be a chiropractor and open up a cosmetics program.
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There are peds trained people who I have seen now have cosmetic only practices and surgeons (not plastics) who also have cosmetics only practices.
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I am all for whatever it takes to get the cosmetics people out of our field <I don't want to do cosmetics, but I rather someone in derm do it who actually trains some in this stuff rather than FM/IM/PEDS/Neurology (went to a neuro clinic that started doing cosmetic botox as well as migraine botox) etc.
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I'm PGY1, when I search for 'physician only' programs under dermatology in NRMP, there are 29 programs with many active for the match. However, many/most of these were not available in ERAS... what is up with these active positions outside of ERAS? example: Miami, LSU, Boston, NYMC, SUNY, multiple UT's, Utah all have active physician only positions in the match but they aren't on ERAS... (for Utah they just got approval in late Jan from ACGME to add an additional resident to their program, and they're choosing to add it immediately to their incoming PGY-2 class. no clue about other programs though)
Programs know that R positions are lucrative and tend to go outside the match, they know they can remove things from a normal contract and offer less given how desperate these candidates are. Really most know who they tend to take as these are people currently in fellowships getting used as free labor and are the PI of the fellowship year is typically good friends of the PD. They know they can get some more abuse out of these suckers so why not
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<this isnt true. they are not going to pay these people less than averagr residents (true; clinical fellows salaries are based on pgy level)
IU had to soap all 4 spots i think << IU is Indiana University?
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yes
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< how do you know? Is there a list of SOAP spots?
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i saw it on the 2018-2019 spreadsheet around match time
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Anyone know what happened with the IU program? I heard it may have been an ERAS submission error since they are otherwise regarded as a good program. Has any derm program ever had to SOAP all spots?
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So I still have a chance to match into derm?
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meh weird if it was a error cause I heard they matched like 1 of the spots and others were SOAP
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ooooh i didnt know they matched 1 << didn't they match someone from Harvard? Was that through SOAP?
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yes i think so
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wow a Harvard med student didn't match? << I heard a couple of harvard people didnt match derm... << HOW DID THEY LIKE THEM APPLES
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wow that's crazy! did they have disciplinary problems?
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yeah one of them got DUI
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the one that matched IU or unmatched?
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IU
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lol damn
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how was this info even leaked lmao << a resident on one of my aways had just come back from leave.....for a DUI. Their mug shot came up on Google next to their professional headshot.
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how long a leave do you have to take for a DUI? Not that I'm planning on getting one lol
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LMAO, also its amazing they let him/her come back
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wait you're saying the Harvard student that matched at IU got a DUI?
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didn't UMASS or UCONN match all IMGs, was that through SOAP or intentional? << I heard from a few reliable sources that UMass intentionally matched 2 IMGs and took 1 resident who was switching from another specialty at UMass. They did not SOAP and from their website it looks like one of the first times ever they didn't take at least 1 of their own students. Not to say non-traditional applicants don't deserve a shot, but there are many fantastic US MD seniors who didn't match last year.
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Indiana matched 1 of their 5 spots last year without the SOAP. They have 5 spots every 3rd year (back to 4 this year).
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so what's wrong with the program? How come they had to SOAP? <I rotated there - there was one mean attending but everything else seemed good - not sure how I’d explain it being the only program that needed to SOAP and having 80% of its spots go unfilled (before the SOAP)
i think it went out on monday? << for everyone or internals?
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seemed like there were externals too Also, it seems Kansas went out? Is 1/16 interview date confirmed?
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What are the odds of a Miami trickle?
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Not horrible odds since many places like Northwestern, UCSF, Hopkins, and others overlpa with their dates
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< I tried to creep and I think last year they had 2 invite dates in december, I'm wondering if that might mean they had those 2 in addition to the internal date in late october, so maybe they would have another date to release invites!!!
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Someone below wrote NYU, Pitt, USC, Miami and Michigan as poss malignant programs. I saw reasons for NYU, Pitt, USC and Michigan but NOT Miami. Does anyone have any reason why they would say Miami is malignant? I have heard good things.
They say those programs are malignant so you rank them lower, and then they can match at them, lol
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I think there's a lot of people who state something with authority when either they don't really know themselves or when they're just being malicious and stating false stuff, but from my own limited personal understanding, these programs are the ones that repeatedly -- year after year -- are cited as "malignant." But I think people are using a broad definition of malignant and the reasons for being listed as "malignant" are different for each program -- NYU has been stated to have unhappy residents who do a lot of scut (as can be said about Columbia) with not the nicest attendings; Pitt has been stated to have somewhat uncaring attendings; USC is broadly a scandal-ridden school so not particularly dermatology department-related; Michigan has supposedly improved; UMiami they just work you hard eg, 7:00 am daily lectures (as can be said about UCSF). So I think malignant in derm programs is not like general surgery malignant, I think just one or more of hard working/unhappy residents/not very nice or caring attendings.
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<<well said. I a lot of the "malignant" rep just means your are working a little harder in some way relative to some other programs. However, some of these top programs are top programs because they work you a little harder...forcing you to learn a little more. -- Agreed --> I would disagree slightly. Sometimes "working harder" doesn't mean learning more. It just means working harder. x3
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<lol someone said lower that malignant means having morning lectures. Very broad range of definitions here
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I think people have the expectation that derm residency should be a 9-5 cush job...? << I don't think that person was conflating 7 AM lectures with malignancy, I think it was a separate question
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7 am lecture is a special type of torture but not malignant, agree.
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idk I equate malignant with people (attendings, coresidents, PD, chair, etc) being actively mean and malicious. Like not caring about the residents or caring that they are unhappy. Long hours, early lecture = sucks but not necessarily malignant if people know about it in advance and sign up for it.
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Is there anything more depressing than not getting an interview from a program you externed at...
not getting an interview from a program you rotated and got a LOR from ...< same boat x2< yeah I'm pretty sure living in a third world country with limited food and water could be more depressing but I think its a close one --- Nope, I would rather live in 3rd world country than not get an interview from a rotation
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<< might I ask which programs these are?
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I'm also curious -- TONS << Many top-tier programs (ie harvard), Miami, Colorado... There's definitely more
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Since we're already discussing Michigan, any other notoriously malignant top 5/ top tier programs? > wtf is happening. supposedly every program is malignant?
Any program with daily didatics before 8am. <name names x2
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UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI HAS DIDACTICS AT 7AM EVERY DAY << HF has morning lectures <<LOL someone deleted UCSF being malignant
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UCSF is malignant
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how are 7am lectures = MALIGNANT? I think people are confusing working hard and dedicated learning with malignant LOL << I don't think anyone is conflating 7AM with malignant. It was a seperate question.
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the initial response though spoke of lectures before 8am = malignant, so it can be inferrered the subsequent responses were in the same vein
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I've heard that Stanford is very very....NON malignant <uhhhhm i've never heard that before
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originally it said not malignant, some foo edited it
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resident lurker here FYI UCSF's lectures start at 8 am everyday not 7 am. There is a 7:30 am dermpath session before lecture on Tuesdays.
<-some resident posted online about how much they disliked the program, bad-mouthing it, etc. turns out the person was a problem resident in other ways so people took their rant with a grain of salt. UMichigan addressed it during interview day and told everyone they were taking steps to make their program less malignant. IIRC PD also just changed recently. (lurking derm resident). Thread: https://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/malignancy-at-michigan-dermatology.1296049/
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< wish more programs would come to terms about their malignancy ;)
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Ok, I will come out of lurking. I am a resident at UM. I'm not going to answer a ton of questions but wanted to chime in and say the online badmouthing was regarding conditions that are now totally different and the PD really made an effort to hear grievances/change. That person who did the posting was a sour character who was unhappy in general. There were also some blatant lies like our PD discourages people from getting pregnant (I think 9 people have had kids in the past 2 years). Is our program perfect? Of course not. Am I happy here? Yes I am. Did someone pay me/threaten me to post this, definitely not. If you come and interview here please ask quesitons about this - we will be 100% transparent with you. <Thank you for this!
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Well this should be a good lesson learned for UMichigan. Often, we as applicants will get overlooked because of something on our application and programs (especially top tier) can just go to another applicant for an interview who checks all the boxes. The justification given (rightfully) is that they should not have to settle since they can get an applicant who has it all. Well UMichigan, while these rumors might not be true or the issues have been addressed, I can just rank a program that is not filled with drama and doesn't have people getting so worked up that they post online. X2
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This "well well well michigan, i'm too good for you" post is the saltiest shit i've read on here. I'm not derm but i'm couples matching with derm and I hope you don't end up in my partner's program
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take it for what it's worth, but I have friends who are current residents at the Michigan program. 1 loves it, 2 can't wait to get out
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I think this would be true of many big programs or maybe that is overly pessimistic of me.
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Or they matched residents who fell so low on their rank list that they're happy to "end up" at Michigan. I don't think it's anyone's number 1 program. << nahhh UM is definitely a backup school
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<< there are some wayyyyy worse (toxic) programs than UM that are bragged about as being good. UM's just the one that people keep talking about because it's already out there in rumors. They honestly have improved considerably<what are some of the other toxic programs? x2
<U Miami. Terrible timing and terrible tone