NYU Grossman School Of Medicine-NY

Hi everyone. M3 here and thinking about aways. Is it worth doing aways at the top programs? < The advice I received is to focus more on doing aways at programs that may be interested in taking you, and that you would be happy training at. It may not be your first choice, but a good fit nonetheless. Top programs are unlikely to interview you based on away rotation performance alone. The rest of your application should be among the top derm applicants as well. << Agreed on this. Depending on the tier of your particular medical school, don't do audition Derm rotations at top-tier Derm places like Harvard, UCSF, Penn, NYU, Stanford, etc. thinking that you're somehow just going to so "wow" derm attendings w/your med student derm knowledge & hard work that you'll either get an interview or that you'll get a stellar letter to be able to use to get interviews at other places (keep in mind that these places have their own home med students going for Derm whom they have worked with for years). That's just not how it works, unfortunately, even w/stratospheric board scores. Wouldn't matter even if you read & memorized all of Andrews. Choose the location and institution of your audition derm elective carefully (talk w/your home derm program faculty mentors, w/previous graduating Derm alumni from your institution, etc.). It can sometimes mean the difference between matching vs. not matching. < what if you have strong connections at top programs and then do an away there, ie stanford/upenn mentor for 2 years and then do an away? << If you have strong connections (I'm assuming you did research w/that Stanford/UPenn Derm mentor for 2 years and were relatively productive) then yes, it could very much help. This is where showing your academic record and CV to that Stanford/UPenn mentor would help.

what open houses are next week?<NYU, U washington, New mexico

i don't get why people are mad. just wait one cycle and things will go back to normal. look at emory. we actually had a bet they won't match a black resident this time given how many they did last time lol they said too many negros lol

anyone else feeling just slightly bummed out by the cycle :/ my mentors really hyped me up and i just feel like i was passed over at a lot of top schools bc i'm not urm :/ but grateful that i matched and i know i'll be super happy at the program but i can't help but feel just a lil bit like a disappointment for not going to a top program < maybe they saw you for the shitty person you are? < my mentor gassed me up and she convinced me i was guaranteed to stay and then i didn't match my home program so welcome to the circus friend

wow. the URMs are rockstars and really killed it in the match. can tell top programs were fighting for them < i know its literally out of control lol < ??? How so

i actually feel like the match played out well overall in derm. it feels balanced to me < 67% match rate feels balanced? < 67% that isnt all white and asian people does < < LMAO are you kidding me....urms get such an advantage < what percentage of 67% do you think are urms?> Someone could figure out a percentage, but you're being willfully stubborn if you don't think URMs have an advantage. An advantage that makes sense in light of the history of the field, but an advantage nonetheless. Programs want to recruit URM applicants over ORM applicants. just a fact < has anyone seen a derm match list with more than 2 urms? if so, how many? i keep hearing about this advantage but where are they? the match list tab is almost complete. why isn't it overflowing with urms? you'd think that with all the advantage most would have matched and we would be able to see the result, no? < maybe fewer urms are applying though, hard to say without a racial/ethnic breakdown of the match rate < bro its obvious

Seems like order of applicants on Harvard email correlate highly with who end up matching there < is that their rank list? < NOT sure about harvard. But if email recipent list order from PD congratulation email is not alphabetical, it means something. < It's not their congratulation email; it's the email they sent about no RTM, seems like they only go down to rank #11 for 9 spots < wait how many people got email? < everyone who interviewed got it< where did the other 2 go < probably go to Stanford, Penn. < if this is the actual rank list, then those two went to NYU and Penn < damn < sounds better, I would trade

nyu fired a pgy-4.....??? holy fucking shit < TEA PLS <ctrl f this was discussed here not too long ago < i wonder how the other residents feel esp the pgy2 that have so much to go...i bet everyone is walking on eggshells

To the mod: Why the variable censorship? I'm n=1 obviously, but you act like there are certain acceptable topics we can't talk about on this anon spreadsheet and certain topics we can talk about, and this censorship tends to have a double standard. Like, for the OP who was asking about med schools with good QOL for their relative or whatever, you deleted their message, and when they questioned you, you deleted that message as well, and blocked the whole cell from being edited so that no one would contest you. I mean sure, it wasn't derm related, but it was still medicine related, and honestly this is a spreadsheet for derm applicants to share info and advice. The OP wasn't hurting anyone were they? And then there's another issue with naming people. When people on twitter were named and linked in discussion, you deleted those cells, but when people were talking about the resident who got fired and named him and linked a website with his info, you didn't delete those cells. Why? And then there's the MS3 issue. MS3's have historically asked for advice on the main chat because that's where their questions get the most visibility. Instead of making the decision to remove those cells and paste them onto a separate tab that isn't frequently looked at it, you need to poll the general audience of this spreadsheet and understand whether or not everyone thinks asking MS3 questions on the main chat is an issue or not. As a moderator, you're job shouldn't be being big brother and making a decision for others. Get a grip. < I feel like the person asking about medical schools to pick with respect to Dermatology programs was relevant also w/respect to NYU Derm, that person's name was not said on the spreadsheet

Re-NYU resident who got fired? what happens if you get fired from your program can you reapply or find another spot? I'm scared for the match and residency < you can scramble for other programs that have spots open unexpectedly, but think it will be very hard to get a spot esp if you had a falling out with prev program (they will surely contact their colleagues and ask about it) < Right. I think the future derm residency program would want to know what exactly the problem was during residency training, and more importantly, if it has finally been resolved and not likely to be a problem again.

Did nyu send RTM? < no < no way

OK - who knows the details? NYU PGY-4 resident fired? < i heard they were fired cause they didn't gas up NYU in the annual derm spreadsheet, which is one of their resident duties < Source!?

Can we now openly share which programs sent out RTM communications? I've had radio silence so just want to know which programs have passed me over < please do we all want to hear this < NYU, Stanford, Emory < NYU and Stanford said RTM??? No way < what about sinai? < I must be hallucinating these emails in front of me then < you got it from sinai? sigh < Not Sinai. I heard nothing from them. Just NYU, Stanford, Emory, and Northwestern < What did the NYU/Stanford emails say roughly? < RIPPPP I thought I did well at NYU and Stanford... < That they were impressed with the interview and reiterated the goodness of fit and how well the programs will help me accomplish my goals. < this isnt rtm though < this does not sound like RTM they use pretty suggestive language usually < They said "ranked to match" after all the preamble. It's uncanny how similar the emails were. < lmao i got multiple 'goodness of fit' emails that means nothing < Well I interviewed at some of the above places and have not even received the said "goodness of fit" email sooooooo < Stanford said multiple times they weren't reaching out to applicants directly < “As we mentioned on interview day, in an effort to respect your decision making and personal time, we will not be reaching out to any applicants prior to match day this year. That said, we want to be a resource to each of you as you make this important decision, so please do not hesitate to reach out if there is any more information we can provide about our program that will help you feel more confident in making your decision about where you would feel best supported and prepared to launch your career in our wonderful field. We feel very lucky that each of you has chosen dermatology, and we are so excited to see the way you will brighten the future of our specialty!” < this is not a rtm email. rtm email literally says ranked to match that is why it is called rtm email < How abt NYU? What does the RTM email say? < yo this cell is like watching a court case be solved LOL < NYU sent an email to applicants last year saying they weren't doing RTM call. How come they flipped this year? < they didn't this person is a troll and doesnt realize how many people ahve access to top 5 program info and receipts < tea 💅🏻. < We'll find out in 2 weeks < we literally won't ever get confirmation about RTM rumors but ok < i mean you may still match there and clearly they liked you as not everyone got it but just saying that these are not rtm emails.

Did anyone get RTM (direct or via mentor) from Harvard, UCSF, Penn, NYU or Stanford (officially or unofficially)? Don't need to say which one but just any of them at all? < got it from 3 of them. <Lol I already know 3 that explicity said they won't do RTM < i would say they were unofficial, individuals can be acting outside of the policy of the department as a whole

What city is safer? Nyu or sf? < NYC